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r/LocalLLaMA · u/nidarshan1 · 3d ago

Every Jev clone copied the same flaw, and it isn't the price.

I’ve been looking at the recent wave of System 1 decision models following Jev, and this is the issue I keep coming back to. Every Jev clone copied the same flaw, and it isn't the price. Jev shipped Sept 15. Three weeks later: 14 System 1 models. Cloudflare. Perplexity. OpenAI. Liquid. Upstage. Together. Inception. A dozen more. All the same contract: Choice, Score, Noul. Prices already at $0. They copied the format. They also copied the flaw. Jev's own docs admit decisions that don't add up. A question and its negation don't sum to 1. The model can be confidently wrong in two directions at once, with no way to say, "I don't know." A cheaper token doesn't fix that. A bigger context window doesn't either. Only coherence does: forcing the answers to agree with each other. Everyone's racing to be the cheapest copy. The market is the one that knows when it's wrong.

posted Tue, 06 Oct 2026 17:18:07 GMTseen 1 time
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