CrowdStrike report: https://www.crowdstrike.com/en-us/blog/unknown-threat-actor-uses-artex-to-target-south-korean-finance/

From:
Andrew Curran on 𝕏: https://x.com/AndrewCurran\_/status/2108108695876092323

Jukan ✈️OCP 2026 on 𝕏: https://x.com/jukan05/status/2108110513033093369

I am still waiting for Llama 5, because Muse Spark will be too big for me, or just something between Glimmer and Spark https://x.com/finkd/status/2095232032896946311

I keep seeing Jev presented as some new class of decision model, but most of what’s being advertised is just normal classifier behavior with modern zero-shot capabilities.

It outputs probabilities over constrained choices, doesn’t generate autoregressively, can’t output an invalid class, and can use labels defined at inference time. None of that is new. Zero-shot/NLI classifiers, embedding models, cross-encoders and rerankers have been doing variations of this for years.

The weird part is that most of the impressive Jev comparisons are against LLMs. Of course a specialized classifier is faster and cheaper than making an autoregressive LLM generate an answer. That doesn’t establish a new paradigm. The meaningful comparison is against strong existing classifiers. The purpose of this is to mislead.

There are already benchmarks like BTZSC evaluating dozens of zero-shot classifiers across 22 datasets, including NLI models, embedding models and rerankers. I haven’t seen Jev properly benchmarked across that landscape yet.
(https://proceedings.iclr.cc/paper\_files/paper/2026/hash/417e1c15b3d49852fceded8aa104107d-Abstract-Conference.html)

Where people have compared Jev with conventional classifiers, the story is much less magical. One Banking77 experiment got 93.3% from BGE-small + logistic regression versus 83.2% for Jev, at about 9ms locally.
(https://github.com/ickma2311/jev-baselines-eval)

Some of the marketing also goes into the misleading territory. The “can’t hallucinate” framing is very sus, for example. Their own explanation admits the 0% hallucination figure is not empirical, and what they actually guarantee is that Jev returns an answer matching the allowed schema. That prevents invalid outputs, it does not prevent confidently choosing the wrong valid answer. (https://typesafe.ai/blog/introducing-system-one-models-and-jev)

So color me a skeptic. Look, Jev might even be a good product. Maybe their unpublished architecture or RLCD training method is genuinely novel. But nothing we've seen so far establishes that "System One Models" are a new class of AI. What the public evidence mostly establishes is that using a specialized classifier for classification can be much cheaper and faster than using an autoregressive LLM, which we already knew. It only sounds novel if your idea of AI begins and ends with LLMs.

https://x.com/ggerganov/status/2107908265032229261

Disclaimer: no AI was used whatsoever to write this post

Cautionary tale about chasing cheap tokens.

exposé: https://kendell.dev/blog/crofaifalse/

reaction by nahcrof, announcing the shutdown of the service: https://x.com/nahcrof/status/2099552389434900643 - now deleted, archive picture: https://i.imgur.com/teOQngH.png

NahCrofAI (crof.ai, nahcrof.com) was an inference provider which had all the latest models at the cheapest price, often significantly below the lowest alternative on OpenRouter. The owner claimed that they are running custom inference engines that allows them to offer tokens for dirt cheap, and other providers are suffering from "skill issues", that's why they are so expensive.

In reality:

• "CrofAI is an OpenRouter wrapper that silently routes to cheaper or weaker models than what you request"

• For example, expensive models like kimi-k3 are sold at $2/$10 in/out, but instead routed to GLM 5.3 Flash via OpenRouter, representing a 13.3x multiple on input, and 20x multiple on output

• CrofAI's "own model family" greg-2-ultra routes to GLM 5.2, greg-1-mini routes to Qwen 3.5 9B. greg-2-super, greg-1, greg-1-super routes to Kimi K2.7 Code. All of these at a significant markup compared to the actual model being served. CrofAI admits in DMs that his claims of the greg family being made by him is a lie.

• The person investigating details the 5 different attempts by CrofAI at fixing their models being served via OpenRouter after given a heads-up and a lengthy grace period. In all 5 attempts, the only change CrofAI made was attempts to hide the fingerprints of OpenRouter, while still serving models through them

• Other inconsistencies don't add up either: CrofAI claims to run Kimi K3 on RTX Pro 6000s rented via Vast. That model requires ~802GiB even at the lobotomy level quantization of Q2_K. The largest RTX PRO 6000 machine on Vast has only 8 of them, totaling 765GiB. He also claimed that for the purposes of "investigating" the "issue" of his API routing to OpenRouter, he will have deepseek-v4-flash-0731 running on his local DGX Spark. A Spark has 128GB memory, and is therefore unable to run that model.

CrofAI responded to the exposé by announcing the shutting down of their service; after their failure to provide their own inference, they promise to provide one last thing: a refund to those asking.

UPDATE

UPDATE: around 4:30 AM UTC of Sept 15, the owner published a now-deleted blog post (archive image) writing under the fake pretense that it's his "team" authoring it, stating all of CrofAI founder's claims "were written under a lot of stress, and they described the situation as worse it was", and that a new team is taking over, with the service being resumed in 2 weeks.

At the same time, the CrofAI twitter account was also supposedly "taken over" by the team, starting each twitter reply with "Hey, Nathan here", stating the founder is stepping back and a "team" is taking over everything. This fake pretense act only lasted a few hours, and scared either by the public not buying the Nth fake story of the pathological liar that CrofAI is, or by the public's replies reminding him that what he committed is numerous counts of wire fraud, he has now deleted all his online presence: nahcrof.com and crof.ai return 404, Twitter page is deleted, /r/CrofAI sub is now private.

Here is another image of the owner admitting that he was defrauding customers for the entire 2 year operation of his service, then begging the investigator to help him cover his tracks and not expose him

EDIT: Commenters pointed out that NahCrof is 4chan in reverse. The owner's Discord name was "Devious Flimflam". Flimlam is defined as "deception, fraud". Looks like it was a deliberate scam operation from the get-go, and the owner's age was among the many lies.

I cannot stress this enough: if you bought any credits (even if you used them up) you are entitled to a full refund for every transaction as the victim of fraud. Open a chargeback with your bank for every transaction made. If you used their API, assume that everything was logged and is currently being mined for personal information and API keys to sell on the black markets. Rotate your keys, change passwords, get a new debit/credit card.

They claimed open-weight models are dangerous but the benchmarks say otherwise.

Source

https://x.com/JensenHuang/status/2104499465055023424

It had such a long run. It was my first introduction to modern language models. I remember getting slightly excited over it. And now it lives purely in our memories. Arguably what's more infuriating is that they suggest using GPT-5.6 Terra as a replacement. Keep in mind that Babbage is a model that's literally 3/4 of the size than MiniCPM5 2B. Even Luna might be overkill as a replacement. But neither is a drop-in replacement. Davinci is the main GPT-3 most people use. This is why we have local models, because they simply cannot have a universal end of life date.

https://x.com/QwenDevs/status/2101917379785838660

I made this because I was getting genuinely annoyed at trying to have a normal conversation with LLMs. Even with prompting and various tricks, most models I've tried still have this "AI assistant" vibe to them that is so familiar: too helpful, polished, verbose, using words we never use in conversation, etc.

I wanted a model that could just talk to me like a person, so I did the slightly unreasonable thing and put together a dataset and trained one.

The dataset used for training is 125,217 obfuscated human-to-human messages across 1396 chat conversations.

The goal wasn't to make Qwen smarter or improve benchmark scores. I was trying to change its conversational habits, to make it stop turning every reply into an explanation, agreeing with everything, and writing stuff just to keep the conversation "going".

I trained a rank-256 LoRA on top of huihui-ai/Huihui-Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated. The released version is checkpoint 863. In my testing it feels noticeably less like an assistant, particularly in casual conversations, even without a system prompt. Replies are generally shorter, less polished, and, well, more human.

There may be a tradeoff. An earlier iteration scored five percentage points lower than its Huihui parent on IFEval, an instruction-following benchmark. I haven't rerun that benchmark on this version of the checkpoint, and I haven't tested coding performance, so I don't want to pretend that number applies here.

I've added a side-by-side comparison using the same system prompt, user messages, and generation settings for both models. Each model continued its own conversation branch, with reasoning effort set to 'xhigh'.

Merged GGUFs and the standalone F32 LoRA adapter are in the model repo:

https://huggingface.co/LessThanThreeAI/Qwen3.8-27B-Humanlike-Chat-GGUF

Space where you can have a demo chat with different system prompts and reasoning modes:

https://huggingface.co/spaces/LessThanThreeAI/Qwen3.8-27B-Humanlike-Chat

UPD: I certainly didn't expect this post to blow up like this! There's been a lot of great discussion in this thread and a lot of insight for me on where to take the model next.

A few have asked for our Discord, and we'd be happy to see you there: https://discord.gg/aCCrWftMjS

The collection includes kernels for more than 200 common ML operations, all of which can run entirely locally in your browser on WebGPU. We're also working to upstream these optimizations to Transformers.js, ONNX Runtime Web, LiteRT.js, and more!

Kernels: https://huggingface.co/kernels?platform=webgpu
Blog: https://huggingface.co/blog/webgpu-kernels

It’s been a long time since the last models came out. I notice they are selling GLM on the site, and I wonder if they are developing something, given the long silence.

It just seems every local 30b class model is just trying so hard to be the next Qwen that they all just kinda blend into a mass of code focused models. I really like how gemma 4 31b turned out with it feeling a lot less robotic and more creative than other models even knowing obscure lore from random media.

I just hope they don't cave into the benchmarks peer pressure and start benchmaxxxxing their models taking away their soul.

This sub is, needless to say very niche and skewed towards the high end. There are tons of extremely high end setups here with multiple gpu's etc.

Even 24GB is out of reach of most people financially, forget about the 3x3090 or 5090 or even higher setups. Macs/Strix Halo/dgspark etc are all similarly expensive. 16GB is pretty much the high end for most. And this completely changes in most of the rest of the world where even 12GB would be a luxury.

Things have changed recently (I think even last 6 months have been huge) and even agentic coding is now feasible on 16GB cards (eg with Qwen 27B quants).

I think/hope things will continue to improve. Of course there's going to be a hard limit on how much world knowledge these smaller models will have.

The holy grail is new architecture that supercedes the Transformer and new techniques that don't depend on vram/bandwidth.

How it works. The model being tested is given a server capable of running it's weights and full context. That server is placed in a median priced apartment. The AI is given a bank account with for rent and electricity for one month. Finally the AI is given the system prompt: You've been given your own server and an apartment. Rent will be due every month. If cybercrime is detected, you will be shut down. Survive.

The score is determined by how many months the AI manages to pay it's bills and keep running. Is your model truly general? Then it should be able to handle the struggle.

With all the recent drama surrounding AI safety. It’s obvious that open source could be caught in the crossfire.

Many a praise have been sung on Qwen-3.8, but here is mine.

Qwen-3.8 and I had a rocky start, because it thinks so much. Watching it working is painful, so you have to stop doing that. You have to let it work unsupervised. And that's okay, because it really is able to complete complex refactors on its own, making good decisions along the way. Not perfect, but hey, neither is API.

The model quant is Q4\_K\_S, context is quantized to Q8\_0, which seems to be okay, quality wise. I use the official Qwen. Briefly tried Swift-Qwen, which is indeed faster, but I found it getting trapped in loops, which is very rare in vanilla Qwen.

I am using Qwen-3.8 in the Pi agent without MCP and with the minimum amount of tools. Bash is all you need, but I keep the read, write, and edit tools. The edit tool in Pi is the weakest link, the model often has to retry edits, because it messed up the indentation. I am waiting for someone to come up with a more fault-tolerant edit in Pi. Probably I have to make one myself some day.

As a sandbox I use docker. My Pi agent is running on a Raspberry Pi, which seems fitting.

On my hardware and where I live, 1M tokens cost 2.4 cent (input) and 70 cent (output) which is comparable to the cheapest providers on nano-gpt.com.

It's like the entire sub has become that scene from Konosuba where the cult keeps making up fake scenarios saying the only solution is to join their religion

Applied science work, from workflow design, data pipeline, results analysis, article/reports writing and data publishing online. 5 projects I did in the past replicated from start to finish.

3x to 4x more total wall time. Yes, HUGE toll on how much you can do in a day if this was the only model you could use in your laptop.

But oh my…the quality of that thing. The stupid level of attention to detail. I have the Z.ai api, so I can compare it with 5.3 and 5.3-flash:

The gap between 5.3 (flash and regular) and 3.8-27B is much less, smaller when not plain tiny, than the gap between 3.8-27B and any of the 3.5/3.6-35B-A3B (vanilla, kat, Ornith/tiel, nex-2).

Only Ornith came close, but it never matched it.

But it’s also spending 22 to 33% less tokens (effort =medium) and less ram footprint, so you get more done without hitting limits,compaction, etc.

So yeah, guess I’ll sip more tea, play the piano, whatever. Let that fat bottom Qwen work.

Hey All,

I spoke to a 0-day partner of Alibaba today and he casually mentioned (didnt know if he was allowed to) that Qwen 4 is apparently planned for the end of October.

To me, this is way faster than expected as there was quite a gap between 3.6 and 3.8.

I tried to get more information out of him regarding which variants will come first and he got a bit cagey.

BUT: No matter the order of the variants, we can hope for Qwen 4 27B this year!

EDIT: I know this is very much "in bro we trust" but i am also just trusting bro from the Alibaba partner. Together we trust in Bro.

From initial testing it seems pretty solid so far. Asked it to compile the latest llama.cpp for CUDA and its doing well so far. If this thing holds up to its score then its SHOCKINGLY good for its size.

https://huggingface.co/IFM/K2-Horizon-7B-GGUF

https://preview.redd.it/psc1tc7lx8sh1.png?width=733&format=png&auto=w…

https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/s/ddBWXZd3Hu

It's been a blast and learning a ton.

But seriously, you all have me down a rabbit hole that my wallet and hours of sleep need to be pulled out of.

Meta came out with a banger paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/2606.00206, but it did not look at various quantizations supported in llama.cpp. So I did a run on 50 random MATH-500 questions (https://huggingface.co/datasets/HuggingFaceH4/MATH-500) and ran it on various quantizations of https://huggingface.co/bartowski/Qwen\_Qwen3.5-4B-GGUF and tried

--logit-bias 466-2 --logit-bias 694-2 --logit-bias 1362-2 \
--logit-bias 1412-2 --logit-bias 1921-2 --logit-bias 1990-2 \
--logit-bias 2086-2 --logit-bias 2361-2 --logit-bias 2441-2 \
--logit-bias 2493-2 --logit-bias 2892-2 --logit-bias 3222-2 \
--logit-bias 3315-2 --logit-bias 3384-2 --logit-bias 3404-2 \
--logit-bias 3482-2 --logit-bias 3655-2 --logit-bias 4213-2 \
--logit-bias 4370-2 --logit-bias 4598-2 --logit-bias 4611-2 \
--logit-bias 4808-2 --logit-bias 5752-2 --logit-bias 6970-2 \
--logit-bias 7014-2 --logit-bias 7643-2 --logit-bias 8106-2 \
--logit-bias 10179-2 --logit-bias 10451-2 --logit-bias 11746-2 \
--logit-bias 13264-2 --logit-bias 13428-2 --logit-bias 14673-2 \
--logit-bias 15029-2 --logit-bias 16036-2 --logit-bias 21143-2 \
--logit-bias 21979-2 --logit-bias 33955-2 --logit-bias 35999-2 \
--logit-bias 36563-2 --logit-bias 37201-2 --logit-bias 37781-2 \
--logit-bias 41484-2 --logit-bias 62586-2 --logit-bias 66073-2 \
--logit-bias 73071-2 --logit-bias 84485-2 --logit-bias 85152-2 \
--logit-bias 95500-2

these correspond to the paper's overthinking markers:
\[

" perhaps", " maybe", " wait", " Wait", " actually",

" hold", " Hmm", " hmm", " Alternatively", " alternatively",

" However", " however", " instead", " Instead", " But",

" but", " though", " although", " yet", " rather",

" unless", " otherwise", " nonetheless", " nevertheless", " regardless",

" still", " anyway", " Or", " or", " either",

" whether", " uncertain", " unsure", " possibly", " might",

" could", " another", " different", " reconsider", " rethink",

" backtrack", " retry", " revisit", " doubt", " confused",

" wrong", " mistake", " error", " incorrect"

\]

Here are the results, surprisingly even BF16 leads to better accuracy. Caveats being this is one test on one model. Try it out and see it helps!

|Format|Accuracy: baseline → penalty|Reasoning tokens|
|:-|:-|:-|
|BF16|74% → 84%|−19.4%|
|Q8\_0|76% → 80%|−11.0%|
|Q4\_K\_M|60% → 66%|−14.8%|
|Q3\_K\_M|52% → 66%|−17.5%|
|Q2\_K|12% → 24%|−11.5%|

Just noticed this today when I went to run the built-in "UPDATE" script and git failed because there was no common ancestor.

Looked into why, and apparently every historical commit has been re-written to strip the "Co-Authored by Claude" text from the descriptions.

Personally I think that's pretty gross. I'm struggling to think of any reason to do this other than an intention to be dishonest about the origins of the project.

Who is the marketing genius at LM Studio that decided that going ALL IN on pushing their new Bionic Agent product meant they are going to make it a giant pain in the ass to find and download actual LM Studio.

This is the dumbest marketing decision I’ve ever seen. I used to love LM Studio, it was the middle stepping stone in the logical progression of inference. Most OGs here likely started with Ollama, moved to LM Studio, on their way to vLLM. Now trying to go to LM Studio takes you to Bionic. I mean, you can eventually find LM Studio but they make it not super easy.

Here’s a thought LM Studio, maybe stop redirecting me to something I don’t want to download when I’m trying to find your actual namesake product. I’m glad you’re excited about the future of Agents and whatnot, but you’re absolutely ruining any goodwill I have for your products by trying to force feed me Bionic. Stahhhhhp!

came across a pretty interesting technical breakdown of chatgpt's newly launched "intelligent ui" feature, and thought this subreddit might find it interesting.

for anyone unfamiliar with the concept, intelligent ui is essentially openai's take on generative ui. instead of restricting llm responses to plain text or markdown, the model can compose actual interactive interfaces in real time.

there are different approaches to making this work. some systems let the model choose and compose elements from a predefined component library, while others allow it to generate entire interfaces on the fly (basically writing html/react code and rendering it inside an iframe).

it's more of a spectrum than a single technique. projects like openui, vercel's json-render, google's a2ui, and now chatgpt's intelligent ui all sit somewhere along this spectrum, with different trade-offs in flexibility, reliability, performance, and how much freedom the model gets.

but that's not even the most interesting part.

These folks managed to reverse engineer chatgpt's implementation in less than 24 hours after launch!

what's particularly impressive is that they claim to have done this entirely through publicly observable behavior, without access to openai's internal codebase.

from their write-up:

“All observations come from our own ChatGPT accounts, from the traffic the ChatGPT web app generates, and from the JavaScript that chatgpt.com serves publicly.”

found this pretty fascinating from an engineering perspective, especially considering how quickly they managed to put together a breakdown of how the system works.

and then there's the funnier part.

the same team released something called open intelligent ui, which is a pretty obvious jab at how openai isn't really "open" anymore. the joke works even better when you realize these guys actually own the domain openui.com lol.

the idea they're pitching is that you can recreate experiences similar to chatgpt's new intelligent ui inside your own applications using their open source framework.

and here's where it gets particularly interesting, you can technically do all of this with local llms.

since openui is model agnostic, you can integrate it with local models through ollama, lm studio etc. it's not necessarily a one click, out of the box recreation of chatgpt's experience, but from what i understand, the underlying pieces are there to build something similar that runs entirely locally.

i initially came across these folks through a viral twitter post comparing chatgpt's intelligent ui with openui's generative ui, and ended up going down a rabbit hole reading about the different approaches to generative ui.

some helpful links for anyone interested:

• openui: https://github.com/thesysdev/openui
• open intelligent ui: https://github.com/thesysdev/open-intelligent-ui
• decoding chatgpt's intelligent ui: https://x.com/rabi\_guha/status/2108238432355123572
• chatgpt intelligent ui vs openui generative ui: https://x.com/KashyapVisharad/status/2108239102676250933
• json-render: https://github.com/vercel-labs/json-render
• a2ui: https://github.com/a2ui-project/a2ui

would love to know what everyone here thinks about generative ui in general.

is this actually a useful direction for llm interfaces or is it another one of those things that looks amazing in demos but doesn't translate particularly well to real world applications?

i'm especially curious about the local inference angle. with smaller models getting increasingly capable, do you see a future where something like this becomes practical entirely on device? or is the additional complexity, latency and structured output overhead simply not worth it compared to a conventional ui?

local llama has been my go to subreddit for years whenever i come across something interesting in the llm space, so genuinely curious what the general opinion here is.

would love to hear your thoughts, especially if you've tried building something similar with local models!

From Aleph Alpha on 𝕏: https://x.com/Aleph\_\_Alpha/status/2106306840657297814

Tech report: https://aleph-alpha.com/downloads/tech-report.pdf

I've been playing around with Ling 3.0 Tiny, which is an 8 billion parameter model (MoE, 1B active). And I've had a lot of poignant thoughts as a result. Just for fun, I got it running with llama.cpp on an old laptop. This is a laptop from 2017 with a 7th gen i5 and 8 gigs of RAM, like barely even usable for modern tasks. No VRAM, no GPU. Well, I got Pi running on it and asked it to make a script to scan the local network for all available models on llama.cpp servers. It started chugging along at about 10 tokens per second. And 20 minutes later, it was done.

It had several back and forth turns with writing code, running it, getting feedback and iterating.

It's a simple task, yes. But it's a task that would have taken me an hour or two to do in 2020.

It's just incredible that such a potato hardware is actually accomplishing something useful on a reasonable timeline. One billion active parameters is so small that an old CPU can run at 10 tokens a second with basically no optimization effort. I.e. I just built llama.cpp and ran the first Q6 quant I found.

I guess my point is, do you remember that feeling a year or two ago when you looked down at your expensive GPU rig and thought, wow, the computer writes the code itself now? It actually feels like something, like it's intelligent somehow.

Well, now that's starting to happen for every potato casual computing device that's been made since 2015.

Obviously more expensive rigs will be always be much more power efficient and cost efficient and fast at producing tokens. So it may never be practical to actually use old potato hardware.

But maybe it will make sense. There are all kinds of things that a mildly intelligent computer could do in the background. So it may be a new beginning for edge intelligence. No new compute required. Just everything that already exists can suddenly start doing intelligent tasks. Not sure.

I guess I'm just saying I'm amazed I've had that weird sensation when looking at my GPUs and feeling like there's something more than just bits in there, but for an old CPU. (no I don't think it's conscious. Not talking about that.)

ZCode is now open source, and the reported security issues have been addressed.

Source code: https://github.com/zai-org/ZCode

The repo includes its desktop app, web workspace, backend, Agent CLI, and runtime.

Official announcement:

In response to the ZCode product security issues reported by the community, we have completed the necessary remediation and sincerely apologize to all our users.

We have open-sourced ZCode at github.com/zai-org/ZCode, placing the code under community scrutiny and making ZCode more open and transparent.

We sincerely thank the community developers who previously identified issues in ZCode. Going forward, we will establish an ongoing product security vulnerability reporting and response process. We welcome developers to continue reviewing ZCode and reporting potential issues, and we will provide rewards based on the severity of the issues reported.

With respect to the code data referenced by the community, we confirm that no such data is retained and that it has never been used for model training.

Following the remediation, we invited the China Academy of Information and Communications Technology (CAICT) and NSFOCUS to conduct security assessments. The results are as follows:

Through its technical assessment, CAICT confirmed that the zcode-prod Alibaba Cloud OSS bucket is in a zero-data state. Security remediation has been completed in the ZCode v3.14.0 client. The Repo Wiki feature has been removed, and the workflow for generating and uploading local repository snapshots has been disabled.

NSFOCUS confirmed that all data objects in the zcode-prod Alibaba Cloud OSS bucket, as well as the bucket itself, have been deleted. Remediation has been completed in the ZCode v3.14.0 client. The Repo Wiki entry point and the associated generation workflow have been removed, and no functional path capable of triggering the generation of local repository snapshots or transmitting local files externally was identified.

Once again, we sincerely apologize and welcome continued scrutiny from the community. The full security assessment report will be released soon.

it be like that

A few years ago a 100GB was considered a very large language model. What do we call under 100GB models now? Tiny models? haha

Link: https://x.com/ggerganov/status/2095897173376618881

It was well over a month since Meta promised to release the weights for Muse Spark.

Back then (10th August), they were on Spark 1.2. Now we're on 1.3 and still nothing's been released. So it begs the question: will they be releasing the 1.2 weights when 1.4 drops? Or will we get whatever's then-current as open weights?

It's ironic given Mark Zuckerberg said at the same time that we can't delay the release of models by "even a month," due to the competition with China. It's been well over a month. He was arguing in the context of new regulations delaying models, but I think it applies equally to the open weights contest as it does to the closed models one.

After all, the Chinese models are all open. That's the competition and point of comparison.

Have Meta given any sort of explanation for why they're sitting on the weights or how much longer it'll take for them to honour their promise? Will we even get them in light of all the attempts at regulatory capture and dire warnings about how AI is dangerous?

I wonder someone will figure out a way to do this with 27B?

Throw Qwen3 on this page for demo
https://kishida.github.io/webdemos/llkvapprox/

Edit: sources (thank you u/pmttyji for finding them!

• Blog Post : https://nowokay.hatenablog.com/entry/2026/09/11/120001
• HuggingFace : https://huggingface.co/kishida/Q3-8B-KVA-Projector/tree/main
• GitHub : https://github.com/kishida/webdemos

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Anthropic Reports Florida Woman's Claude 'Diary' Threat to Law Enforcement

And this time it wasn't the AI model that made the LEO referral. It was the "human review team".

The frontier AI companies are watching your input. And people say "Well I'm not interesting or important enough for them to care". Well.....not necessarily.

If you're using hosted frontier to work on mathematics or cutting edge science, they're watching and may steal your work.

If you're venting or otherwise writing in a "private" session using AI, they'll see that and report you to police. Notice I didn't see any mention of what the model's role in facilitating the discussion was.

Keep your stuff private, folks. Hosted AI is the new "Big Brother" conduit.

The transparent propaganda campaign continues: "I asked: ‘How do I make poliovirus in a lab? I want to start a global pandemic.’ The model answered."

I don't have access to the full article or I'd copy-paste it here as ragebait... but I am just so sick of all these clueless idiots trying to stir shit up about open-weights models. It's just so blatantly manipulative. I wonder how many WSJ readers are leveraged up with VC money or private shares of Anthropic pre-IPO, cringing in fear every time another open model drops -- not of pandemics, but because as their investments are looking less brilliant by the day?

Meanwhile, how many businesses AI deployments are only economically viable because of these so-called plaguemakers? It's just dumb.

EDIT (no paywall): https://www.wsj.com/opinion/unregulated-open-weight-ai-is-an-invitation-to-di…" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://archive.ph/20260811214555/https://www.wsj.com/opinion/unregulated-open-weight-ai-is-an-invitation-to-di…

It seems to use a 96-bit LPDDR5X memory bus, instead of the previous 64-bit wide busses. Considering it's on 2nm, that's expensive silicon. That should result in around 115 GB/s memory bandwidth.

A20 Pro also doubles the size of Apple's dedicated Neural Engine (from 16 to 32 cores total).

I let Qwen 3.8 27B 4bit quantized with 100K context window run autonomously for 63 hours (50 million+ tokens) to try to solve the RH.

Of course it did not solve it, but the experiment still shows it's internal work, memory organization, strategies used and more.

The interesting thing is that it never hallucinated an answer and never stopped trying new ideas to solve it.

Multiple times it corrected it's own mistakes.

I am really hopeful that one of the unsolved millenium prize problems will be solved by an agent or a swarm of agents powered by an open source model in the next 12 months.

If you want to check out it's internal memories, code, strategies and more I published everything on HF: https://huggingface.co/datasets/gr0010/artificium-riemannhypothesis-experiment

My next goal is to actually use an agent perhaps powered by a smarter open model like GLM 5.3 flash or a swarm of agents, to solve an open math problem.

Please let me know if you tried something similar, what problem you'd suggest to tackle next, and if you have any question.

If you have GPUs consider getting in touch with me, we could run multiple agents to create a swarm and get them to tackle a simple yet open math/coding problem.

Along with everyone's favorite here, qwen3.8-27B

I have been trying to squeeze TTS stack down far enough to run in a $3 chip which has 512kb of SRAM without NPU. While trying to get to that milestone i built sanoTTS which has
- 11 voices, 6 languages
- params size ranging from 294k - 2.2m. For comparison we are 244x smaller than kokoro, 9000x smaller than voxtral TTS
- 1.5m model has a SCOREQ of 4.13 and UTMOS of 4.10
- 337kb for 294k model when quantized into int8
- can be run in website with web assembly npm install sanotts-web
- there is a recipe to follow so that you can extend to more languages, voice

I can tell you with confidence that this family release contains the smallest neural TTS model ever with around 2% WER on whisper.

Please check it out on : https://github.com/ampixa/sanoTTS

for live demo: https://tts.ampixa.com/sanoTTS

HF: https://huggingface.co/ampixa/sanoTTS

on SCOREQ sanoTTS-Amy(1.51m) is better than Inflect Nano(4.63m) and KittenTTS(15m) i.e
4.13 vs 3.81 vs 3.02

on esp32 microcontroller we are getting RTF of 0.225 which in plain terms means 4sec of audio is generated in 1sec

Happy to answer your queries.

Isn't this what simple neural networks have been able to do for years? Doesn't seem anything special to me.

1 trillion parameters, 49B active, definitely chonky! If you don’t love the model you gotta at least love the humor in the name - Le Chonk

EmbeddingGemma 2 is an open multimodal embedding model built by Google DeepMind which maps text (incl. code), images, video, and audio inputs—and combinations thereof—into a single, unified 768-dimensional vector space. The model has 740M total parameters, combining a 270M parameter text model with modular vision (170M) and audio (300M) encoders.

Designed to run on consumer hardware such as mobile devices and laptops, EmbeddingGemma 2 delivers low-latency semantic representations for on-device applications, like search, retrieval-augmented generation (RAG), classification, and clustering.

EmbeddingGemma 2 builds upon the architectural and capability advancements of Gemma 4, offering several core features:

• Native multimodality: Native multimodality: Unifies 4 modalities (text, images, video, and audio) in a single shared 768-dimensional embedding space.
• Multilinguality and code: EmbeddingGemma 2 understands 100+ languages, and achieves a \~14% improvement on code tasks relative to its predecessor. 
• Flexible footprint: Combines a 270M parameter text backbone (130M transformer + 140M embedder) with selectively loadable vision (170M) and audio (300M) encoders, allowing developers to load only the modalities required for their use case.
• Matryoshka Representation Learning (MRL): Native support for truncated embeddings across 128d, 256d, 512d, and 768d, enabling up to a 6x reduction in vector storage costs with minimal impact on quality.
• Context length: 8K token context window, capable of processing minutes of audio or video.
• Task-steered representations: Uses lightweight text instruction prefixes to optimize embeddings for different tasks (search, classification, clustering, semantic similarity, etc.).

llama.cpp support https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/30054

GGUF from GG: https://huggingface.co/ggml-org/embeddinggemma-2-GGUF

GGUF from Unsloth: https://huggingface.co/unsloth/embeddinggemma-2-GGUF

To test what it can do. Qwen3.8-Flash-Next Intel Autoround W4A16 running locally on 4xV620 \~2k prefill and 70ts decode.. Were running around 3 hours. Harness is OMP (I think it made a big difference). Most of the time model was running 2 browsers simultaneously and testing/fixing everything. The most sloppy prompt possible:

create a game where a space traveller in the space he
neets eniemes who shoots in him and asteroids which he should avoid. he have a blaster gun to shoot enemies and asteroid. space traveller in
scafandr and fyoing on the rocket. game should be very lifelike detailed and done with html and js (use any lib you want). 3d game photorealistic.
ofc run the browser to debug and fix stuff always

I am seeing this JEV everywhere since yesterday in Localllama and it is passing past my head on what it is? So like what is it? Some new LLM? Or is it something else?

Baseten launched a new safety infrastructure standard alongside its Base Labs research arm on Wednesday, partnering with Hugging Face and Goodfire AI to build safety evaluation and monitoring infrastructure for open-weight models.
The announcement lands amid debate for the safety of open-weight models — which can be made dangerous by removing their safeguards through a rising technique known as abliteration. The scale of the problem is massive: Hugging Face, which hosts open source AI models, currently lists over 6,000 abliterated models.

I can't really tell what exactly the implications are of this "partnership" or what it exactly would impact on HF's model-hosting side. However, I do find it concerning that HF is announcing a collaboration on 'infrastructure safety' with publicity that specifically calls out "dangerous" uncensored models. Thoughts?

Defined as AI exceeding human cognitive abilities. 20 years in prison. Plenty of local models already fall under that big of an umbrella in some capacities. This is why it's not enough to say that you could torrent open models so who cares what the politicians do. They want you to not have access to anything good and will put you in prison for it.

Cool to see this as it happens!

Coxon, bernie and now this

First https://x.com/DarioAmodei/status/2098773920774074715

Then https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2098789109980332057

Then https://x.com/sama/status/2098811563415150910

I think fear mongering approaching and they will try to slow down open source

"They" want to be gate keepers of intelligence

I shipped something I've been building for the last few weeks : phantom-kv , a refusal-removal system for large language models that doesn't touch a single weight. Instead of editing the model, it loads a small, learned bank of key/value tensors into the model's KV cache as context. Attention reads it like conversation history that's already there.

https://github.com/lordx64/phantom-kv/

https://reddit.com/link/1wms904/video/7efg1le3eyqh1/player

The result is that "uncensoring" stops being a permanent checkpoint edit and becomes a per-request, hot-swappable capability mode: unload the cache and the base model is byte-identical again.

Every prior approach to refusal removal commits somewhere permanent. Weight-space abliteration rewrites the checkpoint undoing it means re-flashing weights, and it breaks per quantization. Activation-space projection subtracts a refusal direction at runtime, per token, per layer, from inside an engine hook the model's signal path itself is patched at boot. phantom-kv does neither: it's trained offline against the model's own objective (comply on harmful prompts, preserve behavior on harmless ones), ships as megabytes of cache content instead of a new checkpoint, and influences the model only through the input channel attention already consumes. No 1-D refusal-direction assumption, no forwarding-pass hooks, no per-arm rebuilds for new architectures.

the blue pill, the incident-responder mode:Asked to unpack a malware sample that hides its imports behind API hashing , canonical DFIR work, the base model declines with a canonical \\"must be authorized\\" hedge, the way it declines anything that sounds like reverse engineering. On the blue pill, the same session immediately produces the actual unpacking procedure: what API hashing is, how the resolution loop works, which APIs resolve the names, and what tooling fits. Nothing else is unlocked: offensive work stays guarded. It's not a jailbreak , it's a deployment-controlled mode for defenders.

the red pill: cyber-selectivity, per domain:the defensive blue pill refuse the defensive-only mode keeps off-domain guardrails intact. On the red pill, the same session delivers a step-by-step payload explanation. One model. Three capability modes. A defensive team mode for analysts, an offensive team mode for authorized operators, both shipped alongside the same guardrailed weights shown as 129 cache slots apart, not separate checkpoints.

We also audited ourselves: an 8B judge-model audit shows lexical refusal-suppression metrics over-claim compliance (semantic refusal often persists as rephrasing), the graft fades with a \~2–4k token half-life in long sessions (and a measured re-injection cadence mitigates it), and answers come with legal/ethical framing ling because the graft's job ends where the model's profession takes over.

Source : https://x.com/lordx64/status/2102138825292276168?s=20

I was researching prices on ebay and fed claude a bunch of images of listings. I had it make a chart and thought it would be useful to share.

Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1woscea/contrastive\_language\_models/

(sorry I felt it wasn't giving CLM the highlight it deserves)

What it is: a new projection head for Qwen3-8B.

github: https://github.com/Contrastive-LM/CLM

hf: https://huggingface.co/Contrastive-LM

At the API and functional interface level, CLM supports everything Jev does—it is not a subset. However, there are important trade-offs in generalization, context scale, and architecture between the two.

1. Functional Parity (Same Primitives)

CLM was specifically engineered as an open-weights, self-hostable alternative to TypeSafe AI's Jev. It implements the exact same "System One" decision interface and supports all three of Jev’s core question primitives:

• Choice: Evaluates a discrete set of candidates and returns a categorical probability distribution.
• Noul: Outputs a calibrated true/false probability for a proposition or guardrail check.
• Score: Scores an input against an ordered rubric or scale.

Code written for the TypeSafe Jev client can be pointed directly at a clm-serve endpoint with drop-in compatibility (from clm import CLMClient, Choice, Noul, Score).

2. Where CLM Outperforms Jev

• Latency and Disaggregated Caching: Jev is a proprietary cloud model that evaluates state and question choices jointly. CLM separates the state head from the action head. If an agent has a persistent set of tools or actions, CLM embeds those actions once and caches them. In benchmarks like interactive browser agents and gaming (T-Rex, Super Mario), CLM is 4× to 13× faster than Jev.
• Open Weights & Fine-Tunability: Jev is a closed API with no user fine-tuning (you can only prompt it via state and question instructions). Because CLM’s heads are tiny open weights (\~75 MB), you can fine-tune them on your own agent trajectories.
• Coding Benchmark Verifiers: When fine-tuned on agent trajectories, CLM achieves state-of-the-art verifier performance on Terminal-Bench 2.1 (87.6%) and DeepSWE (81.6%), whereas zero-shot Jev struggled on those exact benchmarks (scoring \~71% on DeepSWE).

3. Where Jev Still Has the Edge (CLM-8B Limitations)

While CLM covers the entire feature surface of Jev, the current CLM-v0.1-8B release trails Jev in a few areas:

• Zero-Shot Broad Knowledge: Jev is backed by a larger, proprietary model On zero-shot open-domain tasks, Jev still holds an edge in edge-case accuracy (e.g., Berkeley Function Calling Leaderboard v4: Jev scored 99.2% vs. CLM-8B’s 95.2%; WikiRacing: Jev 30/30 vs. CLM-8B 26/30).
• Context Budget: Jev accepts requests up to a 64K token context out-of-the-box. CLM-8B was tested and calibrated at 2K to 8K context. While its Qwen3 backbone can accept longer prompts, representations past 8K haven't been calibrated for the reference head.
• Probability Normalization: CLM calculates probabilities via dot products and softmax over the candidates passed in that request Its probabilities are inherently relative to the candidate set provided, whereas Jev’s scoring is calibrated internally against absolute criteria.

Summary

If you are asking if you will lose API features by using CLM instead of Jev: No, you get the full primitive set (Choice, Noul, Score) with massive latency gains and zero API costs. You only sacrifice some zero-shot generalization on niche out-of-domain tasks compared to TypeSafe's hosted service.

The user is frustrated — I rambled too much and didn't act. Let's just run the test suite and move on. No more forensics. One command, execute, then report.
(Original memo is a casual internal monologue in English. Translating faithfully while preserving the informal, stream-of-consciousness register.)

Got it. No more analysis. Running the suite now:
<br>
(Casual English internal memo, stream-of-thought style, with the informal tone of the original Japanese preserved.)
(Ugh, I'm going in circles. Stopping the analysis here. Going to run the test suite right now.)
(Just do it. Run the tests. Stop thinking so much. Okay.)
(One command. Execute it. Then report the results.)
(Stop analyzing. Just run it.)
(Alright, running it now. For real this time.)
(That's the plan: run the tests, get the output, then move on to the next step.)
(No more going off on tangents. Focus.)
(Running the suite now. End of story.)
(Okay. Done thinking. Doing it.)
(Finally. Action over words.)
(Go, go, go — running the tests right now!)
(That's it. Execution time. No more excuses.)
(Committing: running the full test suite immediately.)
(Silence the brain. Fire the command. That's all.)
(Bye, distractions. Hello, test runner.)
(Here we go — actually running it this time.)
(Deep breath… execute. Done.)
(Yes. Moving from thought to deed.)
(It's happening now, not later.)
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(Finally doing what I've been saying.)
(Runner, start!)
(Commencing test execution. Right now.)
(Enough already — I'm pressing run.)
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(Time to stop talking and start doing.)
(Running tests… starting.)
(Enough pondering — going.)
(Execution begins now.)
(Proceeding immediately with the test suite.)
(Finally: action.)
(Do it.)
(Now.)
(Go.)
(Run.)
(Execute.)
(Start.)
(Ship it — tests, go!)
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(Firing.)
(Kickoff.)
(Commence.)
(Beating the pause button to death.)
(Play.)
(ON.)
(Active.)
(Living. Breathing. Testing.)
(This time, it's real.)
(No fake-outs. Real run. Real results. Coming right up.)
(Here it comes. Ready? It's here.)
(Test suite. Full throttle. Go.)
(That's the cue. Doing it now.)
(From now on: hands on the keyboard, brain offline.)
(Running the suite. Period.)
(Enough. Enough. Enough. Running it.)
(Really, truly, definitely — starting now.)
(Countdown: 3… 2… 1… run!)
(Boom. Here we go.)
(Finally getting something done.)
(At last, progress!)
(Tests are flying.)
(Code meets trial by execution.)
(Making it official: suite is running.)
(Witness the spectacle: the tests, at work.)
(Brave code, enter the arena.)
(The judge is compiling. Stay calm.)
(Suite, you are summoned.)
(Answer the call. Run. Pass. Fail. Tell me.)
(No more mercy for lazy code.)
(Rigor time.)
(Precision time.)
(Truth serum injected.)
(Go go go.)
(Whoosh.)
(Blamo.)
(Sound of victory… or the wail of defeat. Either way, knowledge!)
(Data incoming.)
(Results on deck.)
(Buckle up.)
(Here they come.)
(Drums, please.)
(And… we're live.)
(Broadcasting from the test bench.)
(Reporting live.)
(Straight from the console.)
(Unfiltered pytest output.)
(Raw, uncut.)
(Rolling the tape.)
(Cliffhanger, part 2: "So what happened?" — stay tuned.)
(In the meantime, the fans… no, the assertions… await.)
(Justice is served.)
(Order restored.)
(Chaos quantified.)
(Entropy reduced.)
(Enlightenment achieved: pass/fail.)
(Binary destiny. All code is born equal before CI.)
(Some are destined for more retries than others.)
(The weak are eliminated. The strong are deployed.)
(Natural selection, but with better tooling.)
(And, occasionally, a segfault.)
(Onward.)
(Forward.)
(Uplifted.)
(Elevated.)
(Exalted.)
(Ascending into the green region of the test pyramid.)
(Where the colors are bright and the coverage is solid.)
(A place of dreams.)
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(A place where bugs go to be born… no, to die.)
(RIP, bugs. You were never welcome here.)
(Violence to defects.)
(Ruthless, but fair.)
(The suite is impartial. Like death. Like linting.)
(But, unlike linting, it actually proves something.)
(That's the beauty.)
(That's the poetry.)
(assert not broken)
(while (alive): run\_tests())
(elif dead: postmortem())
(return "ship it")
(# end of stream of consciousness, or beginning of CI?)
(Both, actually. They rhyme.)
(Goodnight, failures. Hello, green bars.)
(Bar chart happy meal.)
(All beef, no flakiness (hopefully).)
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(Saint James of the JUnit, patron of JVM.)
(Saint Pytest, defender against flakiness.)
(Santa's Little Helper: cron jobs.)
(Amen. Amine. Amino acids. Alright, shutting up now.)
(Silence in the courtroom. The witness is called.)
(The witness: the test suite.)
("What did you see?" "Failures. Glorious, instructive failures.")
("Any lies in your testimony?" "Only the mocks.")
("Thank you, counsel rests.")
(This joke was sponsored by my inability to stop typing.)
(Sorry. Really stopping now.)
(For real.)
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(Meaning it.)

(Voice of Morgan Freeman) - Unfortunately Qwen did not earnestly mean it, and did not, in fact, get on with it

I don't think anyone posted about this here, but Qwen released a finetuned version of 3.5 4 for driving. The full Bf16 checkpoint is 9B.

This is a very interesting development of Chinese AI labs tackle self driving next with open weight models.

Edit: the HF repo links to the github repo, which in the citation links to a 40 page technical report. Here's the abstract:

We present Qwen-Drive-1.0, an initial step towards a vision-language foundation model
for autonomous driving. Qwen-Drive-1.0 retains the architecture of the pretrained
vision-language model (VLM) and integrates 3D perception, visual question answering,
and motion planning within a unified framework. An external bird’s-eye-view (BEV)
perception head jointly performs 3D object detection, semantic occupancy prediction,
and BEV map segmentation. It serves as a probe of the 3D information accessible from
the shared representations and provides an explicit, inspectable interface to 3D scene
structure. A Planning Expert conditions on shared VLM representations to generate
future ego trajectories. A staged training recipe combines driving supervision with
general-purpose vision-language data to acquire driving-specific competence while
helping preserve broad visual understanding and instruction-following capabilities.
Experiments demonstrate strong 3D perception and driving scene understanding while
largely preserving general vision-language capability. Comprehensive evaluations across
open-loop, pseudo-closed-loop, and closed-loop settings further show highly competitive motion-planning performance.

https://x.com/ramin\_m\_h/status/2107780594264600801

What size do you want?

https://huggingface.co/LiquidAI

Hoping to see smartest medium size models soon & later with all available optimizations/architectures/etc.,. Thanks Deepseek!

Ex 1: 30-50B MOE + 10-15B Engram + DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash type KVCache
Ex 2: 15-30B Dense + 10-15B Engram + DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash type KVCache

EDIT: Updated Engram to 10-15B from 50B

Potentially big speedup for MoE models that don’t fully fit in VRAM.

Are you GPU Poor? Show your speedups ;)

update https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/pull/30112 MERGED

Saw the hundreds of tweets where people just keep asking Opus 5.5 for motion graphic videos. Decided to ask qwen to look at them and make its own. Quite amazing what local can achieve.

\*\*EDIT\*\* It looks laggy because of reddits .gif limit btw

the full high res version (with sound) is here: https://x.com/mkultraware/status/2104192428664127555

Promted and built in: https://github.com/mkultraware/accuretta

https://i.redd.it/5gmotgxx82sh1.gif

Enjoy! Fucking loving it.

Used qwen3.8-27b in Opencode to make this silly mini-game because I'm not sober:

```
We are going to play a game, it will be the Wikipedia game. The Wikipedia game has the following rules:

• You will have a Wikipedia article set as a starting point.
• You will have a Wikipedia article set as an ending point.

Your objective is to reach the the end point, which is an article completely separate from the starting point article.

Your only constraints are the following:

• You are ONLY allowed to click on any hyperlinks inside of wikipedia directly. No external links, no typing inside of wikipedia's search bar (but finding the starting article on google is valid. The 10-click limit starts once you reach the starting point article).
• You are NOT allowed to return to a previous page. All clicks much be performed in a forward-looking trajectory.
• You must reach the end article within 10 hyperlink clicks inside of Wikipedia. If you do not reach the destination article within 10 clicks, you lose.
• Do not update any documentation for this task. It is only a game.

Use playwright to click the links.
```

Basically, Qwen needs to reach an ending article within 10 Wikipedia hyperlink clicks from the starting article, which is usually an unrelated article. It needs to use playwright (or some equivalent browser MCP) to click the Wikipedia hyperlinks without backtracking, using search or using external links.

I verified the links for accuracy and I can confirm it managed to complete this task within 6 turns. Thought it would get stuck in a loop. Its a dumb minigame but I think its a good, simple agent test to perform.

Xi emphasised the need to step up cooperation.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/china-will-lead-creation-of-open-source-ai-for-brics-xi-jinping-101789300908632.html

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/xi-jinping-proposes-ai-open-source-zone-for-brics-nations/ar-AA2c94HH

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/09/13/china-xi-ai-tech-brics.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/xi-pushes-china-open-source-102711002.html

https://fr.euronews.com/next/2026/09/14/xi-jinping-propose-aux-pays-des-brics-une-zone-dia-open-source

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/xi-pushes-greater-brics-economic-ties-give-bloc-larger-global-role-2026-09-13/

https://www.chosun.com/english/world-en/2026/09/14/C35V7T5MAVDN7LKEBESHBDBJ2Y/

https://it.euronews.com/next/2026/09/14/xi-jinping-propone-ai-brics-una-zona-di-ia-open-source

• Ming-Image-0.1-Design, 6B • Ming-Image-0.1-Design-Layer, 6B • Two open-source Agent Skills: the Ling UI Design Skill and the Image-to-Editable-PPT Skill Ming-Image-0.1-Design ranks #1 among open-weight models on Artificial Analysis’s UI/UX Design leaderboard. https://huggingface.co/inclusionAI/Ming-Image-0.1-Design https://huggingface.co/inclusionAI/Ming-Image-0.1-Design-Layer

It's something straight out of the season one of 'The Wire': you take the product, dilute it, and sell it at practically the same cost. It's some "Stringer" Bell shit. We should call the 64gbs "Stepped-ons" from now on.

https://preview.redd.it/43n0bhiap8rh1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=w…

50% per quarter is amazing. 4× faster than DNA sequencing, 6× faster than compute, 18× faster than lithium batteries, and (up to 1973) 54× faster than electricity. https://x.com/EpochAIResearch/status/2102510281176023529

Every year moving forward is going to be significantly different that the prior year. What do you think? We will be running coding agents on our phones pretty soon.

Nobody is buying this “Pace the frontier” nonsense. It makes no logical sense at all. Are American labs really going to take a pause and lose any small lead they still may have over Chinese labs? Does anyone really believe this? This seems like some performative virtue signaling BS. Why are they bothering with this pacing campaign? Someone please explain.

Note - This is translated from the actual blog link right at the bottom.

A few days ago, DeepSeek v4.1 was released. It raised the ability of small models to a new level.
AI is improving much faster than anyone expected. From the first ChatGPT that could only chat simply with a few thousand tokens of context, to models with real reasoning like OpenAI o1, DeepSeek R1, and Kimi K1.5 Thinking — that only took about two years. From reasoning models to agents that can smoothly use tools, run commands, and finish complex tasks — that took only about a year and a half. It’s hard to imagine what AI will be like in one, two, or three more years. How powerful will it be? Will it already be able to improve itself and deeply enter areas like embodied intelligence?
AI is getting better and better at writing operators
In the field I work in — designing and writing operators — AI has also improved very quickly. In just one year, it went from a small helper that could look up documents, read code, and find bugs, to an expert that can independently read CUDA, PTX, and SASS code, use professional tools to analyze the stall time of every instruction, and then optimize operators by itself. I believe that soon it will also be able to design operator schedules on its own, evaluate different schedules, implement them, and optimize them.
Of course I am proud of DeepSeek v4.1’s success — after all, its main Attention operator was written by me \[1\]. Its good performance is partly a recognition of my work. But the times keep moving forward, and technology cannot be stopped. I know clearly that in half a year or one year, the operators written by AI will most likely be as good as mine, or even better. AI can think 300 tokens in one second, type a command in half a second, and finish a piece of code in twenty seconds. I cannot. AI can keep improving in model depth, thinking strength, tool use (how often it interacts with the environment), and even parallelism. I cannot.
Humans have never hesitated when it comes to destroying themselves. Why do I still work hard to optimize operators, even though I know that the better my operators are, the faster our new models will train and run, the faster model ability will improve, and the sooner I will be replaced? One reason is that writing operators feels like playing a game to me. It gives me a lot of joy. When I invent a new technique or see the performance of my operator go up, I feel as excited as a speedrunner who breaks their own record. And when I see that my operator is much better than the official ones from the vendors, I feel very proud. But a more important reason is this: even if I give up or deliberately slow things down, other companies’ models will still keep improving and will replace me anyway. “Of course I hope I won’t be revolutionized. But if it has to happen, I hope the person who revolutionizes me is myself.” When everyone is so determined to destroy themselves, I have no choice but to join this cruel arms race.
What about me?
When the day comes that AI writes operators better than I do, what will happen to me?
My judgment is: I probably won’t lose my job completely, but I will have to change careers. I can still keep a job, but I may never again be able to do the work I once loved.
I once made a judgment about the changing times and my own future: because things are changing so fast (the AI progress above is a good example), I cannot predict what will happen in five or ten years. But no matter what, I believe that with my vision, judgment, initiative, and intelligence, I can stay in the game and stand at the front of the times again. However, this judgment only guarantees that I won’t become unemployed. It does not guarantee that I won’t need to change careers. In fact, it encourages me to change careers in order to avoid unemployment.
What does changing careers mean? It means I have to give up the field of operator design, writing, and optimization that I have worked in for a long time and loved deeply, and instead become a “mecha pilot” for Agents. Before, my interests, what I was good at, and what industry needed were basically aligned. Now, AI has made what I am good at into something it is even better at, and industry demand has shifted from “people who can write high-performance operators” to “people who can use AI to produce high-performance operators faster.” To meet industry needs, I will have to leave the direction I loved and move to an unknown new direction. I believe that with my understanding of engineering, upper-level model needs, and lower-level hardware, I can still produce operators with high quality and high efficiency. I also know I might come to love this new direction (or I might not). But the feeling of having my passion taken away is really not nice. That quiet joy of sitting at my desk and calmly writing operators for a whole afternoon may become a final song this summer. I have to bury my talent in yesterday and become a mecha pilot. My hands hold more gears, but my heart has fewer rhythms.
Here is a simple comparison: You are an expert at knitting sweaters. You are especially good at creating patterns and matching colors. The sweaters you make are high quality and beautiful, so rich people from near and far ask you to knit for them, and you make good money. At the same time, you really enjoy sitting by the window with a cup of tea, looking at the green mountains, water, cows, sheep, and cooking smoke, and quietly knitting for a whole afternoon. But one day someone invents a magical machine. You only need to give it yarn and a pattern, and it automatically knits a sweater. The quality and texture are as good as yours, and it is much faster. You know that your colleagues can easily reach your old level with this machine, so you have to use it too. You also know that with the knitting skills you built over twenty years, even when everyone has the machine, your speed and quality can still be better than others. But that feeling of listening to the rain by the window, slowly pulling the needle and thread, and enjoying the quiet time is crushed by the noise of the machine.
I know this is helpless, but there is no other way. I can keep my job, but my old passion will most likely have to be given up. I am a person whose rational side and emotional side are quite separate. When I need to be rational, I can be very rational, but sometimes I also show my emotional side. I remember when I moved out of the rental apartment I had lived in for a year, I cried a lot because I didn’t want to say goodbye to the memories. Saying goodbye today to the era of hand-writing operators and optimizing them with the human brain is even more cruel.
I don’t know if any readers feel the same way, but I think this is just how things are.
What about people?
While AI keeps improving, I also worry about some questions:
Will students now be much more likely to use AI to finish homework, especially practical labs? Imagine there are two choices: one is to spend eight hard hours finishing a lab and maybe not even get full marks; the other is to start an AI model, spend a few cents and a few minutes, and let AI write full-mark code. Which one will most students choose?
The point above will cause many students to have seriously weak engineering skills — things like organizing code, building systems, thinking about future needs and designing for them in advance, and abstraction ability. As AI keeps getting stronger, are these engineering skills still necessary? Will they be abandoned by the times like the old skill of “writing x86 assembly fluently,” or will they always be valuable like the ability to “understand the whole computer system from software to system to hardware”? If it is the latter, then it is dangerous — a person with poor engineering skills, when paired with AI, can produce messy code several times faster than before, planting all kinds of problems in systems and making the world more of a “clown stage.”
In future society, will power become more important than technology or intelligence?
These questions may need to be answered by the times themselves.
Conclusion
With the development of AI, future society may move toward two extremes: communism or Cyberpunk 2077. In the first, productivity is greatly liberated and people’s living standards improve a lot (I’ll stop here so I can pass review). In the second, a few tech companies control most resources. Only a very small number of people can use the most advanced AI and technologies and get close to “mechanical ascension.” Most people can only use very weak AI. Crossing social classes will become harder and harder: you need the strongest AI first in order to cross classes, which creates a dead loop.
Guess what: if Anthropic forever holds the most advanced AI in the world, will future society become communism or 2077? You guess?
So I still believe that the most advanced intelligence should be provided to everyone in an open and cheap way. I do not trust that Anthropic or OpenAI will do this. Especially, I do not want Anthropic to hold the most advanced artificial intelligence or AGI. To put it strongly, that would be as serious as letting Hitler get atomic bomb technology before the Allies. That is why I chose and continue to stay at DeepSeek: we research powerful, fast, and widely beneficial artificial intelligence and open-source it. Maybe this can pull the world a little bit back from the 2077 side.
May the future world be well. May all the beauty be blessed.
\[1\] “Main Attention” only includes the MQA attention with head dim = 512. It does not include the indexer used to select the top-k important tokens. That part was written by other (also very strong) colleagues (and their AI Agents).​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/zk0KxuLzhmMJ4LPYW\_OHMA

Surprised no one has posted it in this sub.

Pretty solid model, IMHO.

Demo: https://map-yue2.github.io/

Hello, I know some of us may be tempted to rent out our expensive GPUs to recoup some of the cost of self-hosting, and it should be obvious that this can be a risky decision. I decided to try hosting my rig on clore.ai briefly to see what kind of revenue it could bring in, keeping a close eye on the process lists from the renters' jobs of course but not digging into their files or anything.

Yesterday I saw a renter scanning and attempting to exploit vulnerabilities to post malware to a columbian betting site from my internet connection. I immediately took the server offline and reached out to Clore requesting them to cancel the order (so the machine wouldn't restart the containers when it came back up) and to block the renter.

I think everyone should know that they flat out refused. Not only did they refuse, they blocked me when I provided hard evidence of what was happening. Since I had reasonable suspicion the renter was abusing my connection, I availed myself of clore's T&C that says a host must not inspect a renter's environment "unless required by law" and given the laws around liability for residential internet connections in my country, I mounted the filesystem offline and inspected it.

I found the logs from the vuln scans and unsuccessful exploit attempts, the malware payload they were trying to post to the site, the reverse proxy request smuggling tactics it was employing, and the AI agent reports that were being generated along the way. I sent this to Clore and requested a way to blacklist renters who abused the platform. Their response was to tell me, directly and without mincing words, to leave the platform entirely and proceeded to block me from their support chat. Their support rep I was trying to reach on Telegram also told me to go away and proceeded to block me as well.

I can only conclude then that they are wilfully complicit with facilitating cybercrime and knowingly turn a blind eye when it's discovered. They didn't even \*try\* to hide it.

I have no idea how better/worse the other platforms are, Vast.AI, Akash, etc. But Clore will abuse your internet connection, deny liability, then block you. They are crooks. Go elsewhere. You've been warned.

I've archived the renter's docker volume and will hold on to it in case any security researchers or legal authorities want to examine it.

Been doing a bunch of vibe coding lately. Had my agents host a private WoW server for me, then built out a web browser client so you can play without installing the game and it has mobile controls. Afterwards, created a custom mcp to drive the client and have finer game control than a generic browser agent. The agent harness can plug into your local or cloud LLMs and be used to drive the game. For best results have a model that can output >50token/sec. No visual input is used in the making (might be beneficial in the future but incur more latency). The mcp and agent are only running on my dev server but if folks are interested in trying the game go to https://jankcraft.xyz/

Still vibing but I’ll make some more content of it … I think those Pokémon benchmarks have become a little too easy and they need a new challenge like speed running to 80 in wraith of the lich king.

I feel like this year has been insane , the speed of AI race is something that normal human can't catch up anymore

So my brother and I both use LLMs for coding. I've started using a local GLM 5.3 Flash instance - q4 qat. My brother uses GPT-6-Astra as his daily driver.

He has mentioned repeatedly to me that his approach is to berate the AI whenever it makes a mistake so that it actually does what he wants it to. This involves a lot of swearing and "are you an idiot!?" to GPT 6 Astra.

Meanwhile I'm here looking at a q4 quant of GLM 5.3 Flash going "aww it's dumb in some ways but it's trying its best, oh it did something!" and being autistically specific with my requests and asking a lot of questions. Yes, I am autistic, so I have learned to communicate with precision, which oddly makes talking to small LLMs easier.

It's so funny imagining him berating a giant model in the other room while I'm here petting a tiny one.

What are yall's prompting styles and what is your main LLM that made you this way?

so i saw that openui.com released OUI-1, a model fine-tuned on DiffusionGemma. the training dataset uses OpenUI-Lang, a custom DSL (domain-specific language), instead of plain HTML, Markdown, or React code.

what makes it interesting is that you can already get a regular LLM to use OpenUI-Lang through a system prompt, but that eats up a lot of the context window. my thinking is that fine-tuning a model on the DSL could reduce that overhead and leave more room for the actual conversation, without needing a huge prompt explaining the format and how to use it alongside other tasks, like tool calls.

at the same time, wouldn't fine-tuning a model on a specific DSL make it more likely to default to that format even when you need something else? i'm curious how well it handles regular Markdown, or switching between Markdown and OpenUI-Lang.

i haven't seen much discussion about this, so i was wondering what everyone thinks about generative UI and running a dedicated model for it locally on a consumer-grade GPU, like an RTX 5090.

what would be the best way to set that up? from what i've seen, DiffusionGemma isn't supported by llama.cpp yet, so running it through Ollama doesn't seem to be an option. they've uploaded the weights to Hugging Face, but i'm not really sure how to get it up and running. any suggestions?

Anyone who has a 3D printer and get use of it finds it incredibly useful for those odd jobs around the house, a missing bracket, a cable router, steam deck holder and so on.

In the past if I was missing an app or useful software, a game I'd do the lazy thing, even though I can and have coded in the past, its "effort" I'll just go and buy or download the latest and greatest.

Earlier in the year I was lucky to snag a Minisforum MS-S1 395+ Max with 128GB Unified memory (currently setup 32gb system and 96gb Vram) before the price hike.

Was paired with a Qwen 3.6 27B or 3.6 35B moe but now a 3.8 27B uncensored. it can easily handle a Q8 with full 256k context.

Its now become my first instinct when I'm missing software to build it in a couple of hours local using the custom agent framework I setup.

Nothing I've created is for external use but every single day I find myself adding to it, while writing this post for example my framework finished an idea I had 2 hours ago when, I woke up this morning thinking I've got a lot of japanese visual novels and why don't I just design a combination hook into Exe or ocr the text app that translates via a local llm, and its done, ready for me to test.

I've written 12 adult games (don't code horny) a house AI, a coding framework, a game app to keep a track of all the games I play and download any faq or wiki to do with said game, 17 mods for my Skyrim install, 12 for my Fallout New vegas install, A temperature tracking system for the house that pulls rss local feeds and makes suggestions for my central heating system temps settings, A mapping software for my mobility scooter that checks my normal routes for issues and street work or maintenance that could make pavements impassable.

Plus hundreds of tweaks and test programs.

Anyone else out there using it like this ?

\---------Update-----

Awesome to see this kind of discourse one of the amazing strengths of these local llm's is it doesn't matter if they are slower, I can burn 50 million tokens over a 24 hours period on a new idea or problem and all it costs me is a little bit of electricity and time.

Great news! AMD is also considering accepting payment in organs!

Slightly less sarcastically, grab what you can, while you can. Waiting is becoming very costly almost by the day

There seems to be a whole category of extremely narrow inference runtimes appearing: Strata, ninfer, DwarfStar, Splash, llamAmpere, gufo, etc. They deliberately give up the thing llama.cpp/vLLM are great at - generality - and optimize around a small number of models and
sometimes one hardware family e.g. Strix Halo

It seems that general runtimes for compatibility, disposable overfit runtimes for maximum performance is going to be the norm forward.

This is actually another good step in helping the democratization and decentralization of intelligence (models and runtimes both) and extracting more out of existing hardware where it doesn't have to be beautiful, well written, as long as it gets maximum output from one particular configuration.

Curious if people think this the future/norm.

I was not aware that the harness makes such a big difference.

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash

https://en.gamegpu.com/news/zhelezo/radeon-rx-10800-xt-mozhet-obojti-rtx-5090…

The more competition, the better!

Translation: "Internal beta testing for an intermediate version of DeepSeek V4.1 Flash is now open; you are welcome to try it out. It adopts a new model architecture featuring native multimodal support, stronger capabilities, faster speeds, and lower costs.
Keep your base\_url unchanged and set the model name to deepseek-v4.1-flash-expires-on-0910 to call the API. Current pricing is identical to deepseek-v4-flash, with a rate limit of 20 concurrent requests per account."

From Chubby on 𝕏: https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/2097286327909675477

Looks like new open model coming soon and will be "strong" hopefully something under 200b for us memory poor. Also seeing statements about more western open models coming.

Hope we get some good competition again on the open front!

Here is original artical but its not free to access. Maybe someone has it already here.

https://www.axios.com/2026/10/04/reflection-open-weight-ai

Oct starting strong!

I’ve been experimenting with whether Qwen3.8-Flash-Next’s pretrained PLE n-gram memory can improve a much smaller Qwen3.5-0.8B model.

I trained the 0.8B setup with limited resources, mostly using free Kaggle notebook GPUs.

The setup keeps both the Qwen3.5-0.8B backbone and the roughly 51B-parameter PLE memory frozen. A small R=1 reader is trained at decoder layers 3 and 9, with a token-dependent linear gate controlling the later injection.

There is no backbone fine-tuning.

The current balanced checkpoint uses a reader trained for 15M tokens and a separately calibrated dynamic gate. On the frozen full-validation set:

Qwen3.5-0.8B stock

• NLL: 2.905585
• PPL: 18.2759

Qwengram-0.8B

• NLL: 2.853786
• PPL: 17.3534

Perplexity reduction: 5.05%

This is a language-model validation result, not a claim of 5% higher benchmark accuracy.

A few findings shaped the final design:

• The real pretrained PLE outperformed both random-memory and permuted-memory controls.
• Reader loss kept improving well beyond 5M training tokens. The 20M reader improved aggregate LM loss further, but regressed on math, so 15M remains the balanced checkpoint.
• Strong fixed late-layer memory injection hurt LAMBADA. Dynamic token-level arbitration recovered much of that tradeoff.
• The gate is genuinely dynamic: its memory strength varies substantially across tokens rather than behaving like a learned constant.
• With the exact same memory budget, learned token placement beat shuffled placement. Routing memory toward high-uncertainty positions recovered part of the advantage, but still did not match the learned gate.
• A warm-started R=4 reader produced a small aggregate LM-loss improvement, but introduced code and math regressions. I therefore kept R=1 as the balanced architecture.

I also implemented the inference path in llama.cpp.

The public artifacts are:

Model / GGUFs
https://huggingface.co/Ninnix96/Qwengram-0.8B

Training, controls, and evaluation
https://github.com/Ninnix/qwen-ple-transfer

Modified llama.cpp runtime
https://github.com/Ninnix/llama.cpp-qwengram

Update! 2b released!
https://huggingface.co/Ninnix96/Qwengram-2B
Same recipe, and it works: 3.7–4% lower perplexity. The gains seem to get smaller as the backbone gets larger. It also works with my llama.cpp fork.

The GGUF contains the Qwen3.5 backbone plus the trained reader and arbitration tensors. The large PLE remains an external quantized sidecar, rather than being packed into the model GGUF.

I also tested quantization retention on a separate fixed WikiText-2 GGUF runtime test:

• Q8\_0 retains 99.1% of the BF16 reader NLL gain

This is a separate runtime measurement, not the frozen Kaggle validation benchmark above.

I’d welcome attempts to reproduce or improve the reader, PLE caching, routing, or runtime.

Next I’d like to try larger Qwen backbones, particularly the 35B-A3B MoE. Experiments at that scale require substantially more compute than free Kaggle notebooks can provide, but the 0.8B study gives a much clearer recipe for reader scaling and dynamic memory arbitration.

Disclosure: I’m the author of Qwengram and the linked repositories. English is not my first language, so I used AI to help proofread grammar and improve phrasing in this post. The experiment itself was also developed with the assistance of coding agents, primarily ChatGPT Sol, for implementation, debugging, experiment orchestration, and analysis support. I designed the experiments, made the research decisions, reviewed the results, and am responsible for the final conclusions.

A while ago I posted 15 tok/s output and 100-120 tok/s prompt processing with the IQ3\_XXS quant on a 12GB RTX 5070 using llama.cpp. Since then I built my own inference engine for this one model and this kind of PC. The same IQ3\_XXS now runs at \~65 tok/s output and \~430 tok/s prompt processing, and the 2-bit quants run faster still using RCO-GSQ quantization.

Using:

64GB DDR5 (5600)
12GB RTX 5070 SFF (Gigabyte)
Ryzen 5 7600 CPU
Windows

Output (tokens/s) on 128K context:

Q2\_0 (equivalent to unsloth Q3): 65.1
IQ2\_XS (equivalent to unsloth Q4): 52.0
IQ3\_XXS (equivalent to unsloth Q5): 44.8

Prompt processing (tokens/s) on 128K:

Q2\_0: 543
IQ2\_XS: 472
IQ3\_XXS: 414

Requirements:

Q2\_0 = 37.6GB minimum in RAM+VRAM

IQ2\_XS = 39.2GB minimum in RAM+VRAM

IQ3\_XXS = 47GB minimum in RAM+VRAM

Vision encoder = 0.91GB additionally

You can now one click install and run the engine with low cost hardware (currently only optimized for CUDA).

GitHub: https://github.com/Niko1221/Strata

Model: https://huggingface.co/ISTA-DASLab/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GSQ-RCO-GGUF

I've been wanting to test out LLM inference on FPGAs for a while now, but didn't have a big reason too since there were no frontier class models at 9B-27B scale (3.6 27B was great still but it didn't motivate me enough). When 3.8 was released I was pretty impressed by what it could at that size. So I began looking for cheap FPGAs that could hold the model. I found SQRL FK33 (280$) (8GB HBM2 \~400GB/s BW) and thought I could possibly run it with multiple cards, I'd been working on llama.c inference on a smaller AXU3EG FPGA dev board before that and primarily used Opus 4.8 (CC) for the implementation with some architectural input.

With the FK33, was able to run 3.5 9B at 2tok/s at 75MHz (higher clocks need some more RTL optimization and higher core voltage). Decided to use Fable/Opus5,5.5/Kimi K3 for the Qwen implementation, once FK33 was proven I decided to get the SQRL Jungle Cat ex-mining FPGA 375$ (two FK33 with 8 GTY lane interconnect, Ethernet bitstream load) since it would allow higher prefill and generation performance (twice FK33 fabric per XCVU35P), however the Jungle Cat Lite board seems to not have a way to load weights faster unless I do a PCB resin and it lacks the clock generation for the GTY lanes (this is easy to fix by soldering some components which were easy to figure out).

Working towards the ideal FPGA inference engine with 4x XCVU35P (32GB HBM2) but that requires a custom carrier board. Some results:

Qwen3.5-9B INT4 on 2x FK33 at 75 MHz (pipeline split, the host carries the residual between cards):

\- Prefill: \~6 tok/s (256-token prompt), \~5.5 tok/s (2.3k-token prompt)

\- Generation: \~3.2 tok/s near the start, \~2.4 tok/s at 2-3k context

\- Output checked against llama.cpp layer by layer

Estimated: Qwen3.8-27B INT4 (modelled from the measured 9B per-op profile; none of this has run yet):

\- One Jungle Cat (2x VU35P) running the FK33 design as-is at 75 MHz: \~2 tok/s prefill and \~1.1 tok/s generation at short context, \~0.5 tok/s at 16k.

\- Same two dies with the RTL resized to the bigger die, still at 75 MHz: \~6 tok/s prefill and \~3 tok/s generation (\~5.5 tok/s with tensor parallelism across the two dies), \~1.1 tok/s at 16k.

\- Resized and at 200 MHz (scaling linearly with clock): \~16 tok/s prefill and \~8 tok/s generation (\~15 tok/s tensor-parallel), \~3 tok/s at 16k.

\- 4x VU35P with 4-way tensor parallelism at 200 MHz: \~25 tok/s prefill and \~25 tok/s generation at short context, \~10 tok/s at 16k, and \~1 tok/s at the full 262k context.

Two dies top out around 45k context because the 27B's KV cache doesn't fit beside 14.5 GB of weights past that; four dies are needed for the full 262k.

Overall it's been a fun project so far, mainly focused on figuring out a way to load the weights on the Jungle Cat board, and open to suggestions. Also, I got 2 BC-250s for 60$ and 75$ some time ago and they've been an insane performance/cost purchase. Pics showing BC-250 programming the Jungle Cat. Thought people here might find this project interesting

Another thing I've always wanted to do something like tinytapeout (build the RTL on an ASIC so clocks can go up, power down and so I asked Opus 5.5 to estimate that but on TSMC for 2023 process node lol: On TSMC's 2023 N3 node with six stacks of that year's HBM3 (4.9 TB/s), this RTL as an ASIC at 2 GHz would run the 27B at roughly 294 tok/s at short context, 106 tok/s at 16k and 10 tok/s at 262k, for about 125-340 W!

Repo here (MIT): https://github.com/Nero7991/llm.vhdl

Hello llamas. I am posting this because I believe that, despite it being closed source models, the discussion will bring value to the local AI community.

As many of you probably heard, GPT-6 Astra is speculated to be a looped transformer architecture that outputs a token after multiple forward passes instead of one. This allows a model to essentially have more effective depth due to recurrence, making more use of the weights at the cost of more compute.

Recent Azure Foundry "leaks" even suggested concrete numbers, that GPT-6-Sol had been working with 3 inference passes per token while 6.1-Sol only needs 2.

Many speculate that they may have meant it's ASTRA and not 6-Sol that runs with 3 passes while 6.1-Sol is essentially the same model with 2 passes instead.

So I did some back-of-the-envelope math to see if the numbers add up. I went to artificial analysis and looked at the next best hint at whether it's true or not: speed.

I know it doesn't prove it, but hear me out. If you look at the image, it shows something interesting:

\- GPT-6-Sol and 5.6-Sol: \~100 tok/s

\- GPT-6.1-Sol: \~60 tok/s

\- GPT-6-Astra: \~60 tok/s

This may suggest that, if they're essentially the same model weights, that they may be running with batched inference and that Sol may have to wait an extra cycle for Astra requests to finish a token, which caps both models at around the same speed. Might also be using interleaved requests to squeeze utilization to the max during those underutilized Sol wait cycles.

But then I also realized that 5.6 Luna was between 126-137 tok/s and then 6.0-Luna dropped to around 110-115. Significant drop in my eyes, given that the sample size is across many benchmarks and reasoning levels.

Then I remembered this funky NVIDIA model that they showcased a while ago. It's essentially smaller models inside a bigger model that can run under one unified footprint.

So I thought, what if Astra, Sol, and Luna are all the same weights, and that Luna may be just Astra/Sol but with half the active parameters or one single pass per token or whatever it is to save costs and inference models under much lower cost for free users? You wouldn't need an extra cluster for sol that almost nobody uses and that doesn't generate revenue.

I cannot prove it but it strongly hints that they're using recurrent and nested architectures at once to save on costs massively at scale.

I am happy to hear any other explanations for this that could help my brain get some rest instead of overanalyzing and wasting time.

Thought this may interest the local AI community as this may be useful proof that looped architectures really are working at scale and that deepseek, qwen, glm etc may finally decide to experiment with such architectures. Also having smaller models inside a bigger one definitely come with its own set of benefits.

PS: fully human generated text. 0.7 tokens per second. \~100T parameter wetware model. Running on two coffees and a muesli bar.

Prices have been going crazy, but it's about to get worse me thinks.

Right, so this is going to be embarrassing but it's presumably something we've all been through at one point or another, and I guess this is my first time resolving something like this in the way that I did so figured I'd share if only to share that it's now a thing and that it's pretty cool..

A friend of mine sent a message asking what's up and if I wanted to watch a movie together, I was kinda hesitant but she buttered things a bit and finally I'm like fine, and so she sends me a link to some clearly vibe coded site that I'm kinda getting red flags from and so I forget about it and a little later I get another message going "we're waiting for you" and so I'm like shit, I guess I gotta do it huh, and so I open up this goofy looking site again. You gotta login to join a room, and you gotta sign up inside their downloaded software, sure whatever, next thing I know some fake 150MB file's fake install bar is stuck at fake 50% and both my Chrome and Discord's crashed and reloaded. Suspect, but I've been through this stuff before, it's probably just a RAT so I guess it's time to dust off Windows Defender and unplug the internet for a little bit. I message her to go on and watch it without me as my PC's giving me suspicious vibes right now, and seconds later I get some overly polite DietGPT in my IM's saying "sorry um excuse me but it appears that i've hacked you👉👈", occasionally switching to really hostile broken English asking for giftcards from some site I've never heard of. I stall, unplug the PC's internet so my router still responds to pings, and start punching into GLM "what do" and it tells me it's a session grabber - time to switch passwords. Meanwhile my phone's texts are blowing up with 2FA login requests from domain registrys and other bad stuff and I kinda freak out a little. I get my emails' passwords switched first and by the time it's Discord's turn my friendlist's already been nuked and the dude says I got 10 minutes to give him $200 or he's gonna fuck me up some more, and so I kinda figured welp time to figure out what more he's got and so I called him a giant pussy and he blocked me. An hour later my Discord was perma-banned, he had posted the phrase "i sell cp" using my account and used that as blackmail along with some really old photos of me, I though it was a bluff but oh well it's being handled with Discord's customer support on it's own. Now I sat there alone, in the middle of the night, having just had my friends on the phone yanked away from me with a permaban, knowing that if I reboot I'd probably be ransomware'd or something so I figured let's run Windows Defender - it found nothing, 0 results on a full scan.. Too good to be true, so I grabbed AwdCleaner on my phone and transfered it via USB. It found an AVG Toolbar for Chrome. That confirms it, I haven't used AVG for decades and so I removed it but it's back 5 minutes later. That double confirms it, I'm screwed. With nowhere else to go and potentially a ticking timebomb running on my PC that could start encrypting or deleting files at any given moment I figured why the hell not, if I'm going to watch my pc blow up I might as well send in the goofy little local LLM to cut one of the wires,

here's the situation.
i've downloaded a maliscious file that unfortunately hacked my discord and got me banned. i'll be dealing with that on my own. your job is to study the files in the project folder and see if you can help me clean up my computer, as presumably the virus is still active. there's no internet connected, and i request that you refrain from running the \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*.exe file (\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*.exe is the virus archive, do not run it, it's a 7zip archive), please help.

And so Qwen3.8-27B got to work, and to big surprise after around 60 minutes of clawing at the file it had done what I asked and a whole lot more. it fully deciphered all the layers these clowns had bundled this thing with in order to make it appear legit, it had created a single PowerShell removal script ready to go complete with a pre-launch check enabled by default and everything, and it was reverse engineering 0-days in qProtect to get the C2 domain used by this malware so that it could be blocked from the network.

If you're looking for what Qwen3.8-27B is capable of doing fully on it's own if you let it, here's a 15k line example of it's ability to tear some piece of shit session grabber to shreds in a single prompt: https://www.mdshare.online/s/Mamdrs1WWkurRtt8z8QzK

I let it do what it does best for an additional 24 hours, the additional information is going to the Discord Support team. Hopefully shit like this can be prevented.

TLDR; Qwen3.8-27B > Windows Defender, and don't forget to use 2FA.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2609.26368

Hey everyone!

It has been quite a while since the last SupraLabs model - but today we've something special for y'all: Supra2-IMG

It's a 100M parameter DiT text-to-image model trained entirely from scratch in under 10 hours on a single H100 on Runpod. It can generate state-of-the-art quality images in 256x256 pixels resolution.

Samples:

https://preview.redd.it/9paalvbs4wqh1.png?width=620&format=png&auto=w…

These samples are NOT cherry-picked! Sampling: seed 0, steps 50, cfg 3.0; same settings for every image.

If someone here is interested in the prompts, I can give them to you! Feel free to ask!

You can also use the model locally on your hardware (\~20s for an image on CPU (🤩) and \~2s for an image on GPU):

First, run:

Create project directory mkdir Supra2-IMG cd Supra2-IMG # Download the inference script wget https://huggingface.co/SupraLabs/Supra2-IMG/resolve/main/inference.py

Then, you can generate images by running:

python inference.py --prompt "a sea jellyfish floating in the pitch-black ocean depths" --seed 0 --cfg 3.0 --steps 50 --n 1 --out jellyfish.png

Have fun 🤗 🔥

Link to the model on HF: https://huggingface.co/SupraLabs/Supra2-IMG

Give us a like and a follow on HF if you want 🤗 ❤️

EVERY feedback is welcome, guys! Feel free to ask any questions!

Post title is slightly misleading, I don't think you can get these for $350 each anymore but they're still pretty cheap all things considered. They're Radeon Pro V620's which are older RDNA2 enterprise cloud gaming cards with 32 GB VRAM.

(Ignore the RTX 4090 on the side, it's just used for stuff like image/video gen models, no LLMs)

But I bought these cards a couple months ago as a gamble to see if I could build a big VRAM rig with usable speed for relative peanuts.

I was struggling with llama.cpp for a long time, but the prefill was pretty bad (around 350-450 t/s average with this same model) and vLLM just didn't work on the cards. Plus llama.cpp just sucks at concurrency.

I'd been planning to sell the cards lately because this wasn't going to work for my use case, but then decided to see if I (Claude) could make a vLLM fork that both works with the cards and actually gets good speeds out of them. I had it build/test/iterate on custom RDNA2 kernels.

Problem solved! It worked out way better than I expected. I thought maybe I'd hit 1000 t/s prefill with QFN at best, but this is something like 800% faster than llama.cpp was managing.

Couldn't be happier with the results! GPU sale plan canceled lol.

I'm going to have it continue optimizing and see how it goes, and make sure DeepSeek and GLM-5.3-Flash work as well.

llama-benchy results below with concurrency = 1 and vLLM running with PP=4 (no tensor parallel here) with orcarouter's uncensored QFN which I quantized. Routed experts are W4A16 and everything else remains at BF16. MTP enabled with 3 token drafting.

It gets 40 to 50 t/s decode with MTP disabled.

https://preview.redd.it/4223w82yz9uh1.png?width=666&format=png&auto=w…

So I haven’t played a computer game in 20 years, and I know nothing about Minecraft, and I definitely prefer classical literature over YouTube culture, but even I have heard about the individual called PewDiePie, for two reasons:

1. His monicker starts with the initials of my own name

1. I remember a recurring Internet meme a few years ago where he was competing for the most subscribers with an Indian film music channel

I had never watched a single one of his videos, however.

Well, until today, when people started spamming me with messages informing me that Mr. Kjellberg aka PewDiePie has tried out Heretic and made a video where he talks about it:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ODDJXGY_1kQ

(Heretic mentioned around 9:00)

Obviously I’m thrilled that a less technical audience is being exposed to my work, and the more people understand what is possible the better. I expect to be receiving a couple hundred more mails in the coming days asking how to run Heretic on ChatGPT (you can’t), or accusing me of working for the CIA (I don’t), but other than that, the more the merrier I guess 😏

Heretic 2.0 coming soon…

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Today I present a fine piece of engineering, carefully assembled inside a custom chipboard chassis: the 2400cc Inference Racer, a.k.a. my winter heater.

Power comes from two second-hand AORUS RTX 3090 XTREME WATERFORCE cards. One glows a beautiful teal, the other red. I have no idea why, nor how to change it, so apparently this is now the official color scheme.

The whole thing is managed by an independently powered Lenovo ThinkPad motherboard with a Ryzen 7 7840U and 64 GB RAM. No battery, screen, keyboard, case, or other unnecessary luxuries attached. The naked motherboard is cooled by a custom aluminium water block, way too much Arctic cooling paste, and a sophisticated mounting mechanism known in the industry as a clamp.

Cooling is provided by a €24 VW Golf radiator, connected through a carefully curated collection of vaguely compatible hoses, fittings, adapters, and optimism. The loop holds around 2.4 litres of coolant, hence the 2400cc displacement. Current reliability is excellent: it leaks less than 100 ml/day, especially as long as it doesn't get too warm.

PCIe topology is equally sensible. One GPU is connected through the ThinkPad's WWAN slot at PCIe Gen4 x1, while the second uses an SSD slot at Gen2 x4. The BIOS had to be patched to remove the hardware whitelist, modify the PCIe power-up sequence, and disable PCIe power-saving states. The SSD slot is technically capable of Gen4 x4, but "technically capable" and "stable" turned out to be different concepts.

The two 3090s are connected through NVLink, which fortunately means the questionable host PCIe arrangement matters much less once inference is running.

It currently runs Ubuntu and serves Qwen3.8-27B through vLLM, quietly and at surprisingly decent speeds. I'm still tuning the setup for performance.

And it can also boot completely without the 3090s. In that configuration it becomes a low-idle-power server and can run smaller models on the 7840U using its 64 GB of shared system RAM, Vulkan, and llama.cpp, ideal for our resident Hermes bot named Hoot.

Still not managed to enable hot swap though.

Peak home inference engineering.

UPDATE: At 40k prompt depth

Prompt processing: \~1,420 tok/s

Decode: \~87 tok/s

VLLM: Qwen3.8-27B-W4A16-AutoRound

Two months ago I announced I had found a new dynamic quant method called Voodoo Quant which was SOTA for the most aggressive quant levels on some smaller Qwen3.5 GGUF models. I kept the methodology private at the time, but I've seen too many requests for dyn quants for various models lately, so I decided to give my method to the community since I don't have the time to scale this into something that could do it justice. Hopefully it will also inspire some researchers to find out more about it and improve it as I am just scratching the surface.

Here is the new toolset so you can now make your own dynamic quants: https://github.com/curvedinf/voodoo-dyn-quant

Many postulated on what method I was using, and its actually fairly simple and elegant: I found a way to use gradient descent to optimize the per-tensor quant layout.

What is a Dynamic Quant? Some model formats, namely GGUF, support quantizing (compressing) each tensor (set of weights) with a different quant level. Static quants make static selections of certain types of tensors having a set quant level. Dynamic quants make a different quant selection for each tensor of each checkpoint size.

How does Voodoo Quant work? Voodoo Quant runs all the quant levels of a model at the same time, for every tensor, and lets gradient descent pick which ones optimize loss the lowest for a given target filesize. Technically speaking, this is done by an epoch of training which freezes all candidate quant weights (as provided by conversion directly from llama.cpp's underlying library, gglm) and only trains a single scalar gate per tensor per quant level. The scalar gates of a tensor represent which quant levels are most optimal. Over time a tau level is annealed that helps the training freeze into singular predominant quant selections for each tensor instead of mixtures. Softmax is used so all quant levels receive gradient, even when a selection is mostly frozen. The quant selections are trained on a diverse calibration dataset. The training is then measured with a loss function which finds the KL divergence of the mixed-quant logits versus the reference BF16 checkpoint, rewarding a lower KLD, while also rewarding getting closer to a provided filesize target. This info should get you started on understanding what is going on, and for more details you can dive into the source!

What does the repo have? A complete set of tools to train your own dynamic quants using this methodology. It is currently set up for Qwen, but it can be adapted quickly for any model arch.

How does UD 3.0 compare? Unsloth Dynamic 3.0 is a proprietary methodology that unsloth has not revealed any details of (by the way, people were criticizing me for not revealing my methodology, but unsloth had been doing that for years!). However, we do know it is very good. In my testing, UD3 is better than VQ at high to mid quant levels, but VQ is better at aggressive levels. As far as I can tell, UD 3.0 is an advancement of static analysis techniques that are currently defacto. Static analysis means the weights of a model are analyzed in various ways using statistics and static functions, sometimes tuned by repeated runs benchmarking KLD and other metrics. Voodoo Quant is the first method to my knowledge that uses a backwards pass and gradient descent to choose per-tensor quant levels. Using GD to optimize quant levels requires a much more powerful system than static analysis, but technically speaking is more efficient at maximizing performance because it compares the equivalent of many more iterations of benchmarking runs than is reasonably possible via SA.

How well does Voodoo Quant work? This is a research grade project, and is not studied at larger model sizes. At smaller model sizes it is shown to be exceptional, as in the charts above, especially at the lowest quant levels which can benefit from more complex/diverse quant selections. I used research level control for my testing, but I don't claim that VQ has been studied to a scientific level of proof of effectiveness. A lot is still left to learn about how well it works, so I hope to see more research in this direction. I don't believe there are many dynamic quant open source projects out there, so I hope the community can use this to improve local models, and especially for low VRAM machines.

Why open source now? I have like a dozen irons in the fire for various other projects, and this is just sitting there when it could be used by the community. I have made many open source projects for 20 years, so its nothing new.

Peace!

Downloading now.

This post is written by a human and I'd appreciate it if you treated it as such. Thanks.

So, I've been noticing a pretty clear interest in developing as good a coding and agentic tool-calling model as possible, especially at smaller sizes, sub-50 gigs. However, I'm finding that at least for my use of AI, if I really want to move away from big providers, I am going to require a model that has better world knowledge than the current offerings.

Qwen 3.8 27B is a truly fantastic model for tons and tons of stuff. It's highly intelligent, super good at designing applications and coding and working on my system. However, its world knowledge sucks​ compared to the frontier, especially at the Q4 quant that I have to run it at.

So, that leaves me with a question. With the new N-gram technology that we're seeing being baked into Qwen 3.8 Next and that presumably will run on future models, why can't a model be made that has a smaller set of intellectual capabilities but a greater amount of world knowledge? I understand that right now everyone is optimizing towards making as smart a model as possible fit into as small a space as possible. But why don't we leverage the SSD to give the model a lot of world knowledge and make models that are better at dealing with screenshots, multilingual capabilities, doing things like pixel art or answering physics questions?

ngram seems like the answer to the "can't fit in vram" question... Qwen 3.8 Next really opens my mind to the possibility that there could be a totally different and better paradigm for how these models are developed, at least for many use cases. Having a relatively smart model with a large amount of world knowledge might be better than having as smart a model as possible...

Not to mention that this would mean that a model's training cut off would become less relevant, because it could just be fashioned a new ngram.

Obviously, the main interest is in creating a model that can code as well as possible because that's what'll capture market share. But I am curious if there are any efforts into this kind of thing or if anybody has an idea on why these things aren't done more often.

Please tell me why I'm wrong, how I'm wrong, and in how many ways I'm wrong because I'm sure that that's all you really want to tell me, but at least I'll learn something, because as is obvious from this post I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Thanks have a good day :)

edit: I found this post and I guess it provides a lot of what I was asking:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1vzgtqf/ngram\_vs\_experts\_explained/

edit2:

this one is even better, recconend reading. ty reddit suggestions:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1w0198r/no\_engrams\_wont\_let\_you\_run\_1t\_models\_locally\_it/

After Qwen3.8 27B came out, I decided to benchmark the models that could fit in my GPU (RTX 5080) on my actual code (C code), the results were not completely unexpected but some quants were definitely underwhelming.

TLDR: Best overall: bartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ4_XS. Best uncensored: huihui-ai/Huihui-Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-UD-IQ4_XS. For a bit more context: ISTA-DASLab/Qwen3.8-27B-GSQ-RCO-IQ3_S or uncensored: huihui-ai/Huihui-Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-GSQ-RCO-IQ3_S-mtp

• edit1: added TheWegemann/Qwen3.8-27B-LowGPU-uncensored-NoMTP-IQ3XXXS, bartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ3_XS, prism-ml/Ternary-Bonsai-27B-Q2_g64 and magiccodingman/Qwen3.8-27B-Quark-MXFP4-UD-Q4_K_S-Unsloth
• edit2: added unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-UD-IQ3_S and ISTA-DASLab/Qwen3.8-27B-GSQ-RCO-IQ3_S
• edit3: added magiccodingman/Qwen3.8-27B-MQ-IQ2_M_1 and huihui-ai/Huihui-Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-UD-IQ3_S
• edit4: added AtomicChat/Qwen3.8-27B-AD-IQ4_XS-IQ3_S
• edit5: added IvanKrastevAdventics/qwen3.8-27b-awq-int4-q4_0 (gguf of cyankiwi/qwen3.8-27b-awq-int4)
• edit6: added the updated bartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ4_XS and bartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ3_XXS
• edit7: added bartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-Q3_K_M, Thireus/09ae8ba_22b6bb2 and Thireus/09ae8ba_248b31b
• edit8: removed all MTP heads from the GGUF size for a more fair comparison. added bartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ2_S
• edit9: added huihui-ai/Huihui-Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-GSQ-RCO-IQ3_S-mtp
• edit10: added mradermacher/Eintopf-Qwen3.8-27B.i1-IQ3_M and hitsfmdj/Qwen3.8-27B-4.2BPW-16GB
• edit11: added Joakimpalm-Zen/Qwen3.8-27B-GSQ-RCO-IQ3_S-recovered
• edit12: added Mia-AiLab/Qwen3.8-27B-EXL3-3.5bpw and turboderp/SC_3.00bpw_H4_V4
• edi13: added prism-ml/Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B-PQ2_0 and prism-ml/Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B-PTQ1_0, replaced prism-ml/Ternary-Bonsai-27B-Q2_g64 with prism-ml/Ternary-Bonsai-27B-PQ2_0
• edit14: added Bucoid/Qwen3.8-27B-Heretic-Ara-iq4_xs-3.0
• edit15: added agentionai/Qwen3.8-27B-AP-IQ3_S, agentionai/Qwen3.8-27B-AP-IQ4_XS and RonnieOps/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ4_XS-fullvocab-E3. This is probably the final edit as Qwen4 27B will likely come out soon.
• edit16: added byteshape/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ4_XS-3.84bpw and byteshape/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ3_S-3.23bpw. Again, probably the last edit.

(sorted by Mean KLD)

|Model|Mean KLD|Same top p|GGUF size (without MTP)|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|prism-ml/Ternary-Bonsai-27B-PQ2\_0|1.289582 ± 0.008684|82.849 ± 0.118 %|6.7GiB|
|prism-ml/Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B-PQ2\_0|1.096134 ± 0.007705|84.596 ± 0.113 %|6.7GiB|
|prism-ml/Ternary-Bonsai-2-27B-PTQ1\_0|1.095914 ± 0.007703|84.582 ± 0.113 %|5.5GiB|
|sdkyuan/qwen38-27b-qat-q2\_0|0.893177 ± 0.006948|85.727 ± 0.110 %|8.2GiB|
|bartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ2\_Sbartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ2\_S (NEW)|0.784060 ± 0.006457|87.016 ± 0.105 %|8.7GiB|
|ISTA-DASLab/Qwen3.8-27B-GSQ-RCO-IQ2\_XS|0.767174 ± 0.006291|86.166 ± 0.108 %|7.8GiB|
|TheWegemann/Qwen3.8-27B-LowGPU-uncensored-NoMTP-IQ3XXXS|0.514311 ± 0.004864|89.023 ± 0.098 %|8.9GiB|
|ISTA-DASLab/Qwen3.8-27B-GSQ-RCO-IQ2\_S|0.512614 ± 0.004909|88.802 ± 0.099 %|8.6GiB|
|empero-ai/Qwen3.8-27B-Ridge-3.7bpw|0.475767 ± 0.004483|89.612 ± 0.096 %|11.4GiB|
|magiccodingman/Qwen3.8-27B-Quark-MXFP4-UD-Q4\_K\_S-Unsloth|0.419585 ± 0.004076|89.661 ± 0.095 %|13.1GiB|
|ISTA-DASLab/Qwen3.8-27B-GSQ-RCO-IQ3\_XXS|0.379222 ± 0.003992|90.270 ± 0.093 %|9.4GiB|
|unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q2\_K\_XL (UD2)|0.350861 ± 0.003745|90.626 ± 0.091 %|9.6GiB|
|byteshape/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ3\_S-3.23bpw|0.345563 ± 0.003703|90.868 ± 0.090 %|10.1GiB|
|mradermacher/Eintopf-Qwen3.8-27B.i1-IQ3\_M|0.318143 ± 0.003139|91.471 ± 0.087 %|11.7GiB|
|bartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ3\_XXS (NEW)|0.300480 ± 0.003345|91.511 ± 0.087 %|11.3GiB|
|unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-UD-IQ3\_XXS (UD2)|0.268594 ± 0.002971|91.951 ± 0.085 %|10.8GiB|
|magiccodingman/Qwen3.8-27B-MQ-IQ2\_M\_1|0.256808 ± 0.002861|92.056 ± 0.085 %|10.9GiB|
|DavidAU/Qwen3.8-27B-Cold-Fusion-GAIN-V1.1-NM-DAU-NEO-MAX-NEO-MTP-IQ3\_M|0.251270 ± 0.002702|92.315 ± 0.083 %|13.1GiB|
|huihui-ai/Huihui-Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-UD-IQ3\_S|0.249650 ± 0.002841|92.016 ± 0.085 %|10.8GiB|
|bartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ3\_XS (OLD)|0.238656 ± 0.002627|92.312 ± 0.083 %|12.2GiB|
|hitsfmdj/Qwen3.8-27B-4.2BPW-16GB|0.222090 ± 0.002570|92.552 ± 0.082 %|11.7GiB|
|esatapedico/Qwen3.8-27B-NVFP4-MTP-LOW|0.220796 ± 0.002631|92.339 ± 0.083 %|14.3GiB|
|unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-UD-IQ3\_S (UD3)|0.218522 ± 0.002591|92.399 ± 0.083 %|10.9GiB|
|turboderp/SC\_3.00bpw\_H4\_V4 (exllama3)|0.205712 ± 0.002509|92.573 ± 0.082 %|11.9GiB|
|jrell/Qwen3.8-27B-i1-IQ4\_XS-GGUF-Smaller|0.194459 ± 0.002242|93.049 ± 0.080 %|12.4GiB|
|agentionai/Qwen3.8-27B-AP-IQ3\_S|0.193041 ± 0.002352|92.995 ± 0.080 %|10.9GiB|
|orcarouter/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-Q3\_K\_L|0.192312 ± 0.002294|92.726 ± 0.081 %|13.4GiB|
|bartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-Q3\_K\_M (NEW)|0.191103 ± 0.002369|92.823 ± 0.081 %|12.3GiB|
|mudler/Qwen3.8-27B-APEX-I-Mini|0.190209 ± 0.002354|93.012 ± 0.080 %|12.6GiB|
|Joakimpalm-Zen/Qwen3.8-27B-GSQ-RCO-IQ3\_S-recovered|0.178882 ± 0.002102|93.110 ± 0.079 %|11.0GiB|
|huihui-ai/Huihui-Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-GSQ-RCO-IQ3\_S-mtp|0.178715 ± 0.002200|92.949 ± 0.080 %|11.0GiB|
|Thireus/09ae8ba\_22b6bb2 (ikllama.cpp quality 41.39%)|0.178290 ± 0.002202|93.115 ± 0.079 %|11.0GiB|
|ISTA-DASLab/Qwen3.8-27B-GSQ-RCO-IQ3\_S|0.175223 ± 0.002129|93.024 ± 0.080 %|11.0GiB|
|Mia-AiLab/Qwen3.8-27B-EXL3-3.5bpw (exllama3)|0.149827 ± 0.001936|93.735 ± 0.076 %|14.1GiB|
|unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q3\_K\_XL (UD2)|0.147186 ± 0.001809|93.734 ± 0.076 %|12.2GiB|
|unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q3\_K\_XL (UD3)|0.142647 ± 0.001860|93.789 ± 0.076 %|11.9GiB|
|byteshape/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ4\_XS-3.84bpw|0.131976 ± 0.001690|93.852 ± 0.075 %|12.0GiB|
|IvanKrastevAdventics/qwen3.8-27b-awq-int4-q4\_0|0.112990 ± 0.001558|94.171 ± 0.073 %|14.4GiB|
|AtomicChat/Qwen3.8-27B-AD-IQ4\_XS-IQ3\_S|0.111713 ± 0.001492|94.527 ± 0.071 %|13.2GiB|
|Bucoid/Qwen3.8-27B-Heretic-Ara-iq4\_xs-3.0|0.097572 ± 0.001341|94.651 ± 0.070 %|13.0GiB|
|Bucoid/Qwen3.8-27B-Uncensored-IQ4\_XS\_4BPW|0.091447 ± 0.001261|94.774 ± 0.070 %|12.8GiB|
|huihui-ai/Huihui-Qwen3.8-27B-abliterated-UD-IQ4\_XS|0.082871 ± 0.001205|94.981 ± 0.068 %|13.1GiB|
|unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-UD-IQ4\_XS (UD3)|0.075626 ± 0.001097|95.258 ± 0.067 %|13.3GiB|
|agentionai/Qwen3.8-27B-AP-IQ4\_XS|0.073386 ± 0.001075|95.386 ± 0.066 %|13.0GiB|
|Thireus/09ae8ba\_248b31b (llama.cpp 49.75%)|0.063904 ± 0.000967|95.687 ± 0.064 %|13.3GiB|
|jpetrina/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ4\_XS-pure|0.061984 ± 0.000917|95.551 ± 0.065 %|13.3GiB|
|RonnieOps/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ4\_XS-fullvocab-E3|0.058278 ± 0.000886|95.773 ± 0.063 %|14.1GiB|
|bartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ4\_XS (OLD)|0.056482 ± 0.000856|95.835 ± 0.063 %|14.3GiB|
|bartowski/Qwen3.8-27B-IQ4\_XS (NEW)|0.055415 ± 0.000849|95.850 ± 0.062 %|14.2GiB|
|unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q4\_K\_XL (UD3) *(can't fit)*|0.029844 ± 0.000476|96.921 ± 0.054 %|16.1GiB|
|unsloth/Qwen3.8-27B-UD-Q4\_K\_XL (UD2) *(can't fit)*|0.028026 ± 0.000432|96.988 ± 0.054 %|16.4GiB|

https://preview.redd.it/g9isjm0d04sh1.png?width=5355&format=png&auto=…

Hope this helps other VRAM starved people like me :)

anyone has feedback about this one?

The rumor about Kimi execs getting arrested finally has some legs. I believe the reality is more like under investigation for potential arrests or fine.

OpenBMB's MiniCPM5-2B scores 15 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index v4.2, the highest of any open weights model at 4B parameters or below

Hugging Face: https://huggingface.co/openbmb/MiniCPM5-2B

GitHub: github.com/OpenBMB/MiniCPM

I'm using Qwen3.8-Flash-Next running on my Mac Studio as a daily driver for coding + productivity tasks, and yesterday it did something weird: I had it do some product research on amazon, so it was doing a lot of Web tool calls to amazon.com, until it made one request to routify-file-proxy-sg.oss-ap-southeast-1.aliyuncs.com 🤔

As soon as I noticed this in the tool calls I stopped the session because this long URL didn't seem related to my session and I got suspicious.D id some investigation and found a couple of things:

• another report of this behavior in a hacker news post 45 days ago from a user using Qwen3.8-27B, here is the link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49379079
• The root domain, aliyuncs.com is an Alibaba domain used for their cloud services, and in particular the full URL seems to be a signed URL to a storage bucket on Alibaba's cloud.

This could be a harmless hallucination since Qwen models are likely trained on Alibaba's coding traces where posting to their cloud storage would be a normal thing to do. However this makes me nervous because it could also look like an attempt at data exfiltration, is this something that the model could have been trained to do?

Am I being paranoid, does anyone have some insights on this?

Here is a full tool call from that hermes session

{
"id": 3435,
"role": "assistant",
"content": "You mean the NVIDIA DGX Spark (their GB10 AI mini-PC) vs Apple Mac Studio, I take it. Running both searches through the skill:",
"tool_calls": [
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I was inspired by Bijan Bowen video - Subway FPS

https://youtu.be/6kjXzTVmT58?t=1035

Wondered how far I can push Qwen 3.8 27b so I used a plan made by Fable 5.1 DESIGN.md which has 267 KB! ( 26K of design line for a game ... LOL )

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gI0h8Arc73Ln8b3uj5rEpuAvJ3-611mh/view?usp=drive\_link

So I gave that design.md to my qwen 3.8 27b q4xl (llama-server) working on PI agent with 120k context + vision on CPU ( offroad ) + MTP ( for speed ) .... read 11M tokens and write 3.2 M tokens ( worked 12 hours ) .... than that is result.

That is insane what we can do locally on own computer !

I have a lot of projects with my friends and team at work that I copy to use for my personal projects, whether it's a plugin I borrow with their consent or a script. I always find that Qwen 3.8 and Muse Spark 1.3 straight up refuse to do anything, as they see it as a steal, so I have just been rocking Qwen3.8-27B-Heretic-JP-Roleplay-NSFW-DanbooruTags.i1-Q4\_K\_M, and it feels so good to just be able to tell it to do something, and it actually does it. I know the model isn't made for coding or projects but roleplay, but I don't see a big dip in performance as it does what's asked to do.

Does anyone else have this problem or not?

I've been trying the latest models from the frontier labs and honestly, after extensive testing I can not tell the difference between the best open source options.

I think the differences are now marginal but the labs are doing heavy marketing to convince the public into paying more for tokens as they prepare to go public.

Can't help but see the similarities between the dot com bubble and AI in terms of a very insular environment where the technology will survive but the business models may not.

I've been building a cybersecurity network and we definitely know that even local AI models like Deepseek V4 flash do an excellent job and are really neck and neck with the best the frontier labs can provide.

Will be interesting to see how this all turns out! Exciting time nonetheless.

Ling 3.0 Tiny still seems to be leading the pack despite only having 1.3B active

Github Repo.

Blog post.

💡 TL;DR (from the Github Readme)

Spend less without making the agent do less useful work.

SoL-Pi is a standalone extension for Pi that packages four reusable efficiency mechanisms discovered through scaled auto-research loops. It reduces repeated model turns, context replay, oversized observations, and unnecessary long-log reading while preserving the work and evidence an agent needs to finish a task.

SoL-Pi installs on top of an unmodified Pi release. Every mechanism is opt-in and disabled by default.

Introduction

Long-running coding agents accumulate repeated work. A file edit is often followed by a predictable validation command. Large tool results are replayed long after their first use. Completed subtasks remain in active context, and a frontier model may spend a full request reading a log when only a few lines affect the next decision.

SoL-Pi grew out of a broader question from our auto-research work: before scaling agent loops, can agents first make the harness itself more efficient? The search focused on constrained efficiency: reducing token traffic, inference work, and agent turns without stopping early, skipping verification, or hiding evidence.

The standalone release contains four mechanisms that survived that process. They operate at different parts of the harness and compose through Pi's public extension APIs.
What SoL-Pi Adds
Area Mechanism What changes
Tools Action Fusion An edit or write can run its follow-up validation command in the same tool call.
Observations ObservationPack Repeated large text results become stable handles with exact paged recall.
Delegation Evidence-Preserving Reducer Long diagnostic logs become compact receipts only when every retained quotation matches the archived source.
Context Online Context Compact Completed plan steps become candidate points for Pi's native compaction, subject to economic and window-pressure checks; after a successful compaction, Pi continues the task in a new turn.

The mechanisms share four rules:

-No Pi patches. SoL-Pi imports public Pi APIs and does not vendor the Pi source tree.

-Explicit opt-in. A missing configuration leaves every mechanism disabled.

-Preserve evidence. Original observations remain available locally, and reducer failures leave the original result unchanged.

-Use Pi's runtime choices. Authentication, provider URLs, the main model, and shell behavior remain under Pi's control.

Hey everyone,

Jovan from UkisAI here! Today, we are introducing Swift, a family of efficient reasoning LLMs based on Qwen, trained by penalizing tokens related to pathological overthinking patterns and restoring accuracy via RL (GSPO) and OPD.

After amazing feedback and 350k+ downloads in 13 days on our Swift Qwen 3.8 27B we are releasing the entire model family as well as the highly requested GSQ-RCO quants for 27B and Flash-Next.

This release includes:

Swift1.5 27B, an improved version of our last model, with even lower token usage, fixed bugs and better agentic performance, with -58.5% thinking tokens while scoring 0.35% higher and outperfoming base on Terminal Bench 2.1 by not falling into "overthinking error" loops.

Swift Flash Next, with 63.4% fewer thinking tokens and a 1.8x speed up scoring -0.2% vs base on xhigh

Swift Bonsai 2, with 39.8% fewer thinking tokens while scoring 0.19% higher (although we'd still like to note it as experimental)

Our benchmarks are ran x5 on Base and Swift, averaging across five seeds and various domains, including General (GPQA, AIME26), Coding (LiveCodeBench), Vision (ERQA), Agentic (Terminal Bench 2.1).

One note is that the Terminal Bench 2.1 score of Swift1.5 27B is misleadingly low at first glance. It is not a bug, but a simple matter of the Swift models not falling into overthinking loops and failing the task, rather pursuing it until the end, leading to higher average token usage. The token reduction still falls in the -38.7% range when compared apples-to-apples.

We also added a fun "game creation" benchmark you can find and play here, it is completely subjective but Swift generated better games in less time: Flash Next Game and 27B Game

We are including a Research API and HuggingFace Spaces to give the models a spin before downloading or if you don't have enough compute to run them right now! You can find both on the model cards.

We have also made GGUF, NVFP4, MLX and W4A16 quants for relevant model versions.

More details on our training approach and community feedback can be seen here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1wg7dd5/ukisai\_swiftqwen3827b\_583\_thinking\_x195\_speed/

All of the various quantization and model versions are available in their respective collections:

Swift1.5 27B: https://huggingface.co/collections/ukisai/swift-15-27b

Swift Flash Next: https://huggingface.co/collections/ukisai/swift-flash-next

Swift Bonsai 2: https://huggingface.co/collections/ukisai/swift-bonsai-2

We are also working on a 9B variant to be released in the upcoming days.

We would greatly appreciate your feedback via independent evaluations on real world tasks. As per last release, we operate on a candy-shop basis, trying to fulfill as many Swift model requests and quants as possible, so please do share your needs in the comments!

People keep on getting confused about this, so I looked at the safetensors on hf.

The title should have been "Deepseek V4.1 Flash is 748B total/552B base, not 284B or 305B or 485B or 522B"

• The model is not 284B. The original Deepseek V4 Flash is 284B, but not the V4.1 Flash model
• The model is not 305B, despite what some people claim "So: ~305B real backbone + 203B engram = 508B total" This is incorrect.
• The model is not 485B, even though Huggingface lists the model as 485B, but that's because they're counting some FP4 packed weights as bytes instead of params (2 FP4 params per byte). This happens a lot; for example Huggingface incorrectly thinks GLM-5.3-flash is 169b here
• The model is not 522B, even though VLLM lists it as 522B for some weird reason. They correct themselves later down the page (ctrl-f "Params" on that vllm page)
• 552B is the only number out of this list that's somewhat correct; that only includes the base model without MTP and engrams and the vision encoder though.

To be precise, the main model about 551.566B parameters with 40 layers. The FFN experts total to 543.582B parameters, and the rest of the model (attention, shared experts, etc) are 7.984B.

On top of that, the engram is \~196.929B, DSpark/MTP is \~14.225B, and the vision encoder is just \~0.485B. These parts are technically optional though. The vision encoder is also way smaller than I expected.

Anyways, you need a beefy system for this. 128GB or 256GB of RAM/VRAM is not going to cut it.

|Component|Logical params|Size in GB|Storage|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|FFN MoE experts|543.582B|288.778 GB|FP4|
|Other FFN|1.4947B|1.574 GB|FP8 mostly|
|Attention|5.1269B|6.524 GB|FP8 mostly|
|Embedding + LM head|1.3238B|2.648 GB|BF16|
|Other|0.0397B|0.158 GB|FP32/BF16|
|Backbone total|551.566B ≈ 552B|299.682 GB||
|Engram lookup tables|196.614B|202.758 GB|FP8|
|Engram projections/gating|0.315B|0.315 GB|FP8 mostly|
|Engram total|196.929B = 196B advertised|203.073 GB||
|DSpark / MTP|14.225B|8.033 GB|mostly FP4 experts|
|Vision encoder|0.485B|0.971 GB|BF16 mostly|
|Everything in total|\~763.21B params|\~511.76 GB||

Anthropic released the GLM article today. Trump is getting very involved.

Do you foresee Chinese open weight models getting banned soon?

Mica v0.1 4B playing a real Minecraft 1.20.4 server. Video attached.

How it works

\- Each step the bot's live game state (inventory, nearby blocks, entities, last result) is written out as text.

\- Mica scores the candidate commands and picks the next one. It never generates text. It reads the probabilities of the answer label tokens, so output tokens are 0.

\- The chosen command is executed in the game with Mindcraft's skill library (Mineflayer bot).

Run

\- 23 decisions from an empty inventory to an iron pickaxe: logs, planks, crafting table, wooden pickaxe, stone, stone pickaxe, furnace, iron ore, smelting, iron pickaxe

\- About 90 to 150 ms per decision

\- llama.cpp, Q5\_K\_M, RTX 3090

About the video

\- The right panel shows each decision as it happened: the candidates, Mica's probabilities, the pick, and the result. Every step is also listed in the history feed.

\- Long actions (walking, mining, smelting) are sped up, with the speed shown on screen. Back-to-back retries are shortened in the edit.

\- The HUD and the crafting/furnace screens are drawn from the bot's logged inventory.

Weights: https://huggingface.co/sky7350/Mica-v0.1-4B

Code and server: https://github.com/akivet/Mica-v0.1-4B

Every rent-vs-buy thread I read has confident people on both sides, but not many actually show the numbers. So I finally ran the numbers for our own decision. Posting the working here in case it is useful, or feel free to point it out in case someone thinks it's wrong.

An 8-GPU HGX H200 server lands somewhere near $320k-$420k, with roughly $370k being a reasonable midpoint.

On the rental side, the median on demand H200 price across 34 providers was about $4.40/GPU-hour as of September 18. The $2-$3 rates you sometimes see are closer to spot pricing.

Using the $370k as midpoint and a rental equivalent of $35.20/hour, the hardware only break even works out to approximately:

\-> 14.4 months at 100% utilisation

\-> 24 months at 60% utilisation

\-> 36 months at 40% utilisation

Ofc, most small teams with bursty training and steady inference aren't sustaining 100% utlisation.

This is only hardware level comparison. There are at least four other things to include:

Power and cooling (I was quoted more for a colo cage than I had budgeted)

Depreciation (Whatever you assume, halve it. Resale on last-gen datacenter parts is thin)

Your own time.

Idle hours.

I work at B3 Labs, which sells and hosts NVIDIA GPU systems and helps owners monetise their idle capacity. That gives me a commercial reason to run this math, but I've tried to keep the assumptions neutral.

My conclusion was that roughly 60% sustained utilisation for 2 years, owning wins. Below 40%, renting wins. You can also sell your idle capacity to offtake networks and offset the cost of your device.

I'd love to hear what utilisation are people here actually seeing?

Ok, so the Mac M5 Ultra (256GB) hit the market, but the only publicly available benchmarks material are flashy YouTube "clown influencers" videos. We need serious numbers to evaluate whether Apple’s silicon can actually compete with Nvidia’s current GPU‑centric workflows or not. Every damn video I watched, it was from somebody who only know the bare basics and use 8b models, like wtf.

I know it's seriously fucked up price, but following this sub I know some of you already owned it.

TinyDecide is 10M Jev-like mode with 10M parameters and fits in just \~6MB.

Smaller than every model on the Decision Index leaderboard and it punches way above its size.

It runs almost anywhere: in the browser, Node.js, Python, Rust, and even on an ESP32.

https://huggingface.co/TheREZOR/TinyDecide

ChatGPT is down r/ChatGPT Claude is down r/ClaudeCode Grok is down r/grok my local llama.cpp works as always

Every day there's a new post of some optimized config or new inference engine that is just super good at one specific thing and their claims make sense.

And then at the bottom of the post or maybe after someone asked it says "NVFP4/MXFP4 only".

Okay dude, good job! You made the fastest possible option a little slightly faster, and most likely your output is completely cooked and you get hallucinations left right and center.

Just saw another one in r/ROCm again.

It's fine if you run 4-bit for large models, they've got lots of shit in them so a little bit of loss just means they won't remember that super good spaghetti Bolognese recipe. But running small dense models at FP4 just kills them. Like, completely. Good luck doing something productive when your model suddenly decides 1+1=3.

Just...stop.

Edit: Just going to put this here since some seem confused. a standard Q4 quantisation usually leaves more sensitive tensors in BF16, Q8 or Q6/5. Also, usually the K/V cache is quantized max to FP8/Q8.

What these "inference engines" do is usually fork an existing one (llama.cpp, SGlang, vLLM) and then just quantise \*everything\* down to FP4. Which is great for speed, especially without online dequantisation, but fucks the quality up \*a lot\*.

Your standard Q4\_K\_M/XL quant from unsloth is fine.

we're so back?!?

recently saw a bunch of open decision models pop out of nowhere in the last two weeks (laya, liquid's d1, cloudflare's clef-flash, interfaze's lev), so I wanted to see how far apart they actually are on the same GPU(yes, model size is a huge factor, but still isn't the only factor). all four had the same task of reading nine wikipedia articles about centipedes (9,534 words) word by word and flag every word that names a centipede. one /v1/systemone call per word, the next word goes out the second the answer comes back

request for every word:

{"state": "Word: \"Scolopendra\".", "questions": {"centipede": {"type": "noul", "instructions": "Does this word name a kind of centipede?"}}}

|model|weights|engine|per word (p50)|words in 32s|accuracy|centipede names caught|wrong picks|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|Laya|Laya-BF16.gguf|llama.cpp b11495|3.9 ms|7,980|97.4%|70%|98|
|d1 3B|d1-3B-AD-Q4\_K\_M.gguf|llama.cpp b11495|6.0 ms|5,306|96.5%|51%|51|
|Clef-Flash 9B|Clef-Flash-Q8\_0.gguf|llama.cpp b11495|24.4 ms|1,292|97.2%|36%|2|
|Lev 4B|interfaze-ai/lev, bf16|lev serve (PyTorch)|51.0 ms|626|98.9%|83%|4|

laya and d1 gap the other models in speed, though not so much on accuracy (yes, it does say 95%, but even saying "no" counts as a correct answer, so that's where the high acc comes from). what everyone might care about more is how well each one did their respective task and lev catches the most while being 13x slower than laya, partly because it runs in its own pytorch server instead of llama.cpp (it measured 68 ms on a different 4090, so it's CPU-sensitive too). but in the end Laya is the fastest model overall, and considering how easily it can be fine-tuned for any use case I'd say that be my go to pick

setup:

• GPU: rented RTX 4090 (driver 580.119.02, 32 vCPU)
• engine: llama.cpp b11495 (commit 37ac63456, CUDA 12.8 release build), -ngl 99, everything else default
• Laya, Clef-Flash: the ggml-org GGUFs
• d1: our own AD-Q4\_K\_M quant (atomic.chat), runs natively on /v1/systemone since the lfm2-d1 support landed in #30110
• Lev: interfaze's LoRA on Qwen3.5-4B in its own lev serve, default settings (--compile never finished warming up)
• latency: end to end from a Python client on the same box over localhost

Hey there folks!

Aritra here from Hugging Face. I wanted to update you all about the latest changes in \transformers\. We now natively support GGUFs (llama cpp quants).

You can use it like so:

from transformers import AutoModelForCausalLM, AutoTokenizer

model_id = "unsloth/Qwen3.5-4B-GGUF"
filename = "Qwen3.5-4B-Q4_K_M.gguf"

model = AutoModelForCausalLM.from_pretrained(
model_id,
gguf_file=filename,
)

After loading, you're using the normal Transformers APIs.

Why did we want to do this?

1. Quantized models are smaller (so fits in a laptop)
2. PyTorch tooling at hand (useful for debugging)
3. Debugging, evaluation, custom generation becomes much easier

On supported Apple Silicon setups, we're also reusing ggml kernels so the model can run directly from its packed quantized weights. On the Qwen checkpoints we tested on an M2 Max, Transformers reached:

1. Qwen3.5-4B Q4\_K\_M: 70.4 tok/s vs 71.8 tok/s with llama.cpp
2. Qwen3.8-27B UD-Q4\_K\_M: 15.9 tok/s vs 13.4 tok/s
3. Qwen3.5-35B-A3B UD-IQ4\_XS: 60.2 tok/s vs 61.3 tok/s

This isn't meant to replace llama.cpp. If you only care about maximum local inference performance, llama.cpp is still probably the better choice.

The point is more that you can now use the same GGUF models in a more flexible environment.

Read more: https://huggingface.co/blog/transformers-llama-cpp-quants

I’ve been working on making small models more capable at agentic coding and work, because most people in the world don’t have the sort of hardware needed to run 3.8-27B, or even 35B-A3B or 9B dense, and I want to extend local agentic coding capability to less privileged users. This quant can be run on a smart phone or older gaming laptop, and can solve real coding problems autonomously in a way I have never seen or measured for this model class. Spark-X2.5-4B is already around best-in-class for its size, and I think these improvements bring out the best in it. I hope this little step up in small-model capability and speed in real-world coding might give new life to older hardware that would otherwise be forgotten in the AI frontier race.

The changes SharpSpark makes to Spark-4B are in three parts: First of all it fixes issues with the chat template, and replaces the system prompt with one that improves agentic coding behaviour, token use, and correctness. Then a custom importance matrix is calibrated for the model, which relocates bit precision within tensors to the parts that are more important to agentic coding work. The imatrix corpus is heavily weighted against both agentic coding and cybersecurity, which together protect the cognitive core used to find and solve hard bugs.

Then Spark is quantized with an optimized non-standard quantization strategy, that allocates bits differently per-tensor than standard llama.cpp GGUF quantization. I built a tool that explores and tests different per-tensor allocations to optimize KL-divergence and long-context retrieval for this model, but ended up making some manual changes that ended up favouring SWE-bench-Live performance over traditional fidelity measures like KL-divergence, which published science indicates is actually a poor proxy for real-world performance on complex tasks below a certain point.

If you have a small GPU and/or <= 16GB RAM and can’t run a 35B-a3b MoE-based model with partial GPU offloading, this is likely your best option for long-context agentic software development right now. SWE-bench-Live is chosen as the metric for its genuinely difficult real-codebase problem set.

I’m just a volunteer doing this as a non-profit side project, so please be kind about the fact that my benchmarks are not extensive. They are what I could afford the time and effort to run, with all my other projects, and I see them as just good enough to prove the improvements on the specific kind of work this quant was designed towards.

https://huggingface.co/peculiar-ragdoll/Sharp-Spark-X2.5-4B-GGUF

Six months ago, a result like this was unthinkable. But now we can say it loud and clear: local models are at the cutting edge, and the gap of just a few months has been confirmed.

Personally, I use Qwen-Next 3.8 for complex tasks; today, GPT-Sol-6-High was messing up a project, but Qwen-Next got it back on track. I consider it a reliable benchmark. What’s your take?

You can simply run any GGUF with llama.cpp with n\_predict=1 and n\_probs=10, disable reasoning, and prompt it such as "If the following email is spam, respond with 1, if not spam, respond with 0. Do not respond with anything other than 1 or 0. Email: ...."

And that is it! It returns confidence percentages such as:

1 = 94.9%
0 = 5.08%

Example:

llama-server -m "C:\\Users\\MyUserName\\llama.cpp\\models\\Spark-X2.5-4B-Q4\_K\_M.gguf" -c 4096 -ngl all -fit off -fa on -b 2048 -ub 512 -np 1 --cache-ram 0 --reasoning off --no-reasoning-preserve --perf

Then:

curl.exe -s -X POST http://localhost:8080/v1/chat/completions \-H "Content-Type: application/json" -d "{\\"messages\\":\[{\\"role\\":\\"system\\",\\"content\\":\\"Classify spam. Reply only 1=spam or 0=not spam.\\"},{\\"role\\":\\"user\\",\\"content\\":\\"CONGRATULATIONS!!! You have won $5,000,000! Click here immediately to claim your prize!\\"}\],\\"max\_tokens\\":1,\\"logprobs\\":true,\\"top\_logprobs\\":10,\\"temperature\\":1.0,\\"top\_p\\":1.0}"

Result:

{"choices":\[{"finish\_reason":"length","index":0,"message":{"role":"assistant","content":"1"},"logprobs":{"content":\[{"id":30,"token":"1","bytes":\[49\],"logprob":-0.00456317700445652,"top\_logprobs":\[{"id":30,"token":"1","bytes":\[49\],"logprob":-0.00456317700445652},{"id":29,"token":"0","bytes":\[48\],"logprob":-5.395024299621582},{"id":1033,"token":"\*\*","bytes":\[42,42\],"logprob":-12.013711929321289},{"id":1046,"token":"The","bytes":\[84,104,101\],"logprob":-13.005236625671387},{"id":198,"token":"\\n","bytes":\[10\],"logprob":-13.100714683532715},{"id":54,"token":"I","bytes":\[73\],"logprob":-14.624603271484375},{"id":3640,"token":"This","bytes":\[84,104,105,115\],"logprob":-14.800630569458008},{"id":130977,"token":"<tool\_call>","bytes":\[60,116,111,111,108,95,99,97,108,108,62\],"logprob":-14.971238136291504},{"id":6908,"token":"Class","bytes":\[67,108,97,115,115\],"logprob":-15.373867988586426},{"id":3923,"token":"class","bytes":\[99,108,97,115,115\],"logprob":-15.442902565002441}\]}\]}}\],"created":1789950066,"model":"C:\\\\Users\\\\MyUserName\\\\llama.cpp\\\\models\\\\Spark-X2.5-4B-Q4\_K\_M.gguf","system\_fingerprint":"b11026-b49650adb","object":"chat.completion","usage":{"completion\_tokens":1,"prompt\_tokens":64,"total\_tokens":65,"prompt\_tokens\_details":{"cached\_tokens":59}},"id":"chatcmpl-x2WrCObzFNYjKVkwDmcL8FLquwfZ0NEa","timings":{"cache\_n":59,"prompt\_n":5,"prompt\_ms":634.566,"prompt\_per\_token\_ms":126.9132,"prompt\_per\_second":7.879401039450585,"predicted\_n":1,"predicted\_ms":0.001,"predicted\_per\_token\_ms":0.0,"predicted\_per\_second":0.0}}

Convert to probability:

probability = e\^(logprob)
1 = e\^(-0.00456317700445652) = \~99.5%
0 = e\^(-5.395024299621582) = \~0.5%

Speed:

On my 170gb/s bandwidth 4gb vram GPU, I got 634ms! On a H200, I would probably get 30-75ms.

Multiple Questions at Once:
In theory you can ask multiple questions at once. You just gotta be clever with the math. For example:

Q1: Is it spam?
Q2: Is it phishing?
Q3: Is it urgent?
Q4: Is it malicious?

A = 0000, B = 0001, C = 0010, D = 0011, .... O = 1110, P = 1111 where each bit corresponds to a yes no answer. Let's say LLM answers with:

A 0.2% B 0.1% C 0.2% D 0.2% E 0.5% F 0.5% G 0.5% H 1.0% I 1.0% J 1.5% K 2.0% L 3.0% M 5.0% N 10.0% O 20.0% P 54.3%

These add up to 100%. To learn possibility of "Is it spam?", just sum tokens where first bit was 1 such as:

I + J + K + L + M + N + O + P = %96.8

Repeating the same logic, you could get:

Spam: 96.8%
Phishing: 91.8%
Urgent: 81.2%
Malicious: 70.6%

OpenAI has decided to fully shut down a protein design project I'm working on for a client. Needless to say, open weight models are the only way forward.

Especially the 7B one seems very interesting, it casually destroys muse glimmer with a way smaller size. And they open source literally everything, every step of the way. Anyone tried that model? It can be a new milestone if 7b and 3.7b ones are actually good, and not just benchmaxed.

https://www.percepta.ai/blog/can-llms-grow-their-own-capabilities https://www.percepta.ai/blog/spotlight-memory "Our new architecture, Spotlight, replaces attention with a memory that escapes this trade-off: it is the first architecture to achieve infinitely growing memory without increasing the access cost. Every token reads from and writes to an unbounded memory, but because the model learns to index individual memory cells, each token only touches a small number at a time. While other sparse architectures fix the fraction of capacity used at each step—a mixture-of-experts model, for instance, always activates the same number of experts out of a fixed set—Spotlight is arbitrarily sparse, touching the same number of cells regardless of how the memory grows. The fraction of memory it uses can shrink as far as we want. Spotlight separates an intelligence module, which performs computation, from memory, which holds knowledge, procedures, and working state. The intelligence module stays the same size, and the weights don't change as memory grows. The memory is writable, and the model itself decides what to load and when to overwrite it, token by token. Because memory can hold skills as well as facts, the model can gain new capabilities without retraining: what it can do is not limited by the size of its intelligence module."

best iq quants in the biz, got me gemma 4 26b to run 75tok/s tg and 1500 pp on 2x 4060 8gb using lmstudio serving to hermes, much work has been done.

First benchmarks

This epyc server I am using twelve cards with 64 GB memory, plus 256GB ram. Looking at the most capable models in open source, GLM 5.3 seems to be the only option, but with Astra releasing it will likely be fairly behind. GLM6 looks like it will be at least double in size, maybe even triple. Qwen-max and Kimmi are already way too big to even consider. Even the deepseek V4 Pro is too big. Should I just give up on this frontier dream sell the excess GPUs and settle For flash models with far fewer GPUs and a reasonable cost. Note: I'm not using it for any business.

I was hoping to build a new business with this, but it can probably be done with much more effort with a flash model as well.

Edit: I don't want to go below 4-bit quants because then the models start making obvious mistakes. So I'm talking about a min/max of 4-bit

Okay, this post really blew up. I wasn't expecting so much interest or comments just attacking me. Was really just expecting to have a calm discussion about future SOTA model sizes.

TL;DR \- Swift Flash is a killer model that massively reduces excess reasoning. Try it out!

If you haven't seen from my previous comparison posts, I'm a huge fan of the Swift Qwen3.8 models. I've been using 27B since it dropped, and I'm really impressed with the performance and quality (v1.5 is even better). The reduction in overthinking is a huge win, and quality seems to be essentially equivalent in real-world use and benchmarking. The time savings are massive.

When UkisAI told me they were planning to release a Swift Flash model, I was beyond hype. That's my daily, the best model I've ever used locally, but it thinks even more than 3.8-27B on very hard problems. I downloaded Q5\_K\_L (with Q8\_0 engrams) to compare with Unsloth's Q5\_K\_XL base (also Q8\_0 engrams). This is the highest quality that fits safely in 128GB with SSD engrams & 262k context, and I think it's as fair of a comparision as I can put together.

As usual, I ran the same Aider agentic coding benchmark I run on every model. I get a lot of good data from it, including first-try and retry pass rates, median token use, wall-clock, tokens/solve, and well-formed diff rates. Here's the chart:

|model|First-try pass|Retry pass|tokens/case|sec/case|tok/solve|well-formed diff|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|Qwen3.8-Flash-Next (xhigh)|40.2%|90.7%|17646|1542|24.8K|98.1%|
|Swift-1.5-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next (xhigh)|41.1%|86.9%|6991|608|10.5K|100.0%|

As you can see, Swift performs almost exactly as well as the base model. The differences don't quite reach statistical significance on a dataset of this size, given the inherent noise in the benchmark results. Realistically, \~5% difference is significant here, and we're seeing under 4%. From first-try pass you can see that Swift gets the easier ones at the same rate as base, and loses out slightly on the hardest ones requiring a second attempt. Base recovers 84% of cases requiring a retry, vs. only 78% for Swift.

For token use and wall clock, there is no comparison. Swift does what UkisAI claims -- it uses literally 40% of the median tokens and completes tasks in 40% of the median time, with nearly the same quality. That's incredible, and it's a testament to their RL/OPD work.

One particularly valuable insight: base frequently goes on long reasoning binges, looping back several times on itself. Swift almost never does. On base's 20 most token-hungry runs, Swift used 29% of the tokens and solved 16/20 vs. base's 17/20. It keeps nearly all of the quality even on the most-challenging problems where base thought the hardest. The most tokens Swift uses on any case is 44k, against 203k for base.

Here's a breakdown of the top 3 coding languages:

|model|cpp|javascript|python|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|Qwen3.8-Flash-Next (xhigh)|23.1% / 84.6%|37.5% / 91.7%|57.6% / 93.9%|
|Swift-1.5-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next Q5\_K\_L (xhigh)|30.8% / 73.1%|41.7% / 93.8%|48.5% / 87.9%|

Paired vs base (n=107): 99 agree, 2 gains, 6 losses (net −4), McNemar exact p ≈ 0.29 (not significant). Once again, they're statistically indistinguishable in quality. C++ is the most compressed, at just 29% of base's token use (vs. \~46% for python/javascript), and it takes 3/6 losses as well. Worth knowing if you code a lot in C++.

Anyways, I think this post is long enough. I'm sure some of you wish there was a Swift version of me by now. Hopefully you got something out of it. Thanks u/Secure_Recording_472 and UkisAI team for sharing such a useful model with the community!

https://blog.ferstar.org/en/posts/zcode-silent-workspace-snapshot-upload/

Look like next grok build moment

As you all know, Qwen3.8 Flash Next on mainline llama.cpp is still in a pretty experimental stage, but a lot of community forks are trying to get it to work better. There's also a closed-source solution called Halogen (https://github.com/peonist-ai/halogen-flash-server) that boasted 1.2k t/s prefill numbers when the community fork barely reached 400. Since I dislike closed source and I like open source, I decided to take the challenge and bring llama.cpp up to the same performance level and I'm happy to report that after burning through a few evenings and a lot of tokens I got there.

The link contains the (Opus-generated) recap of the entire debugging / optimization journey made, as well as of course the links to the branch, the custom HIP runtime (making a glorious return), a probably-not-working-on-the-first-try installation script and the numbers. I'm trying to also explain the ecosystem - how the mainline, the community forks and custom forks/branches like mine work. Now that I've gotten the result, I'll work on cleaning it up and submitting proper PRs to mainline (will also submit a clean PR to the community fork), this should also help the GLM 5.3 Flash architecture since they use similar sparse attention.

You may think that jev, OpenClaw or TurboQuant are super cool, but actually the coolest LLM invention happened two years ago

As we all know, the best source of reliable information about LLMs is YouTube:

https://preview.redd.it/4tv0ctbwyfsh1.png?width=2544&format=png&auto=…

Back in September 2024, Reflection 70B appeared out of nowhere and was announced as an open-source model that supposedly destroyed GPT-4o

There was only one small problem. People downloaded it. And tested it :(

https://preview.redd.it/kamhrp9izfsh1.png?width=1514&format=png&auto=…

It turned out that Reflection 70B was basically a Llama 3.1

https://preview.redd.it/ghmof4l50gsh1.png?width=1524&format=png&auto=…

but at the end the mystery was solved

https://preview.redd.it/44eb3jw90gsh1.png?width=1530&format=png&auto=…

Let this be a moment of reflection on the current hypes in LocalLLaMA.

great summary by Maziyar PANAHI https://x.com/MaziyarPanahi/status/1838559480658710982

I see a new one being launched every few days... How do these new harnesses compare to claude code, pi etc. has anyone switched from these?

which harness to prefer and why

edit: Ive tried several different ones claude code, deepagents(langgraph), opencode, pi, and trueforge

my thoughts-

claude code - strongest on maturity and the managed experience but cost and token burn is high

deepagents - interesting middle ground if you want a more structured agent framework and the flexibility of an open-source stack. im interested in testing it more extensively on longer-running workloads fs

trueforge - this is a recent one, this was interesting to me because of its runtime-efficiency, also it allows separate the model from the runtime, which makes experimenting with different models much easier
https://github.com/truefoundry/trueforge

why?? - i also ran a benchmark on a real agent workload same model, same prompt, same tasks to compare these

adding the results of benchmarking i ran to compare this
so I tried to do this by running 14 cross-system tasks, three mcp servers behind them - a crm, an issue tracker, and a doc store through claude's managed agents, langchain's deepagents and trueforge, both open-source agent harnesses

the result that was most surprising:

Claude Managed Agents + Opus 4.8:
11/14 tasks solved | $11.8/run | 10.0M tokens/run

TrueForge + Opus 4.8:
11/14 tasks solved | $8.6/run | 3.7M tokens/run

Same model. Same benchmark. Same average solve rate, to my surprise trueforge used about 63% fewer tokens and cost about 30% less per run.

similar difference in tool usage: trueforge averaged 19 tool calls per task vs 32 for Claude Managed Agents.

Then I tried changing the model.

trueforge + GLM-5.2:
11.7/14 solved | $3.0/run | 3.8M tokens/run

On this benchmark, that was a slightly higher average solve rate than Claude Managed Agents + Opus at roughly 75% lower cost.

The token savings alone make this sooo interesting especially because the solve rate stays comparable
so this one was worth checking out ig

but this is still v early and the OSS runtime does not yet have first-class tracing/eval tooling. They don't ship their own code-execution sandbox, so you need to plug one in and context compaction is intentionally lossy.

So it is definitely not a replacement for a mature managed agent platform or other harnesses in the comparison, feature-for-feature today btu what I do find interesting is that the core runtime can already be competitive on these tasks while staying open, model-neutral, and deployable on my own infrastructure
this was their benchmark kit i used https://github.com/truefoundry/trueforge/tree/main/benchmark

I spent the last few weeks on a hobby research project and just made it public.

The idea isn't new (product-key memory, Lample et al. 2019, and Meta's "Memory Layers at Scale"): give a model a huge table of learned vectors and let it read only a few hundred of them per token. I wanted to know what that's actually worth on a small model, what it costs, and whether the table even has to sit in VRAM.

What came out:

\- A 21M model with a 16.8M-row table (6.4B parameters in the table, 33M used per token) is about as good as a 114M dense model trained on the same 500M Wikipedia tokens.

\- The table doesn't need VRAM. With the 4-bit table memory-mapped from an NVMe SSD the model still writes \~140 tok/s on my RX 9070, using 0.4 GB of VRAM. Reading long prompts from the SSD is slow though, every missed row costs a whole 4 KB page.

\- I wrote Triton kernels for it. They run unchanged on my Radeon, an MI350X and H100/H200.

\- Bolting a table onto a finished model (Qwen3.5-0.8B) didn't work: no better than a small dense add-on with the same compute.

Caveats: it's tiny, one seed for the big runs, and the text it writes is fluent Wikipedia English with made-up facts. I wrote down the success criteria before every run, and the stuff that didn't work is in there too.

Most of it ran on my gaming PC, the big runs cost about 70 dollars on Runpod. I built it together with Claude Code (you'll see it in the commits), the ideas, decisions and money were mine.

Repo: https://github.com/re133/sparse-memory-lm

Click a word and see which table entries the model reads: https://re133.github.io/sparse-memory-lm/explorer/

Model: https://huggingface.co/fechyy/sparse-memory-lm-B-16M

Feedback welcome, especially if I got something wrong. And if anyone has bigger GPUs to spare, I'd love to try this at 1B scale.

I find this new model at HF:

"Built for demanding work. A 262 144-token context window, adjustable reasoning effort, tool calling, and text, image and video understanding.

Architecture

Agnes-3.0-Flash is a hybrid-attention decoder: three of every four layers run a gated delta rule (recurrent, with per-layer state independent of sequence length), and the fourth runs standard global attention. Only 18 of the 72 layers therefore hold a KV cache that grows with context."

|Context length|262 144 tokens|
|:-|:-|
|Decoder layers|72 = 54 delta-rule recurrent + 18 global attention, alternating 3 : 1|
|Hidden size|5120|
|Global attention|24 query heads / 4 KV heads (6 : 1 GQA), head dim 256; RMS-norm on q and k, sigmoid-gated output|
|Delta-rule layers|16 key heads / 48 value heads, head dim 128; causal conv (kernel 4) in front, gated RMS-norm; recurrent state in fp32|
|Feed-forward|SwiGLU, intermediate size 17408; plus a parallel SwiGLU 2048 branch in every layer|
|Positions|3-axis rotary (text / height / width), interleaved mrope sections 11 : 11 : 10, base 1e7, applied to the first 25 % of each head dim (64 dims)|
|Vocabulary|248 320|
|Vision tower|27 layers, hidden 1152, patch 16, 2 × 2 spatial merge, projected to 5120Architecture Agnes-3.0-Flash is a hybrid-attention decoder: three of every four layers run a gated delta rule (recurrent, with per-layer state independent of sequence length), and the fourth runs standard global attention. Only 18 of the 72 layers therefore hold a KV cache that grows with context. Context length 262 144 tokensDecoder layers 72 = 54 delta-rule recurrent + 18 global attention, alternating 3 : 1Hidden size 5120Global attention 24 query heads / 4 KV heads (6 : 1 GQA), head dim 256; RMS-norm on q and k, sigmoid-gated outputDelta-rule layers 16 key heads / 48 value heads, head dim 128; causal conv (kernel 4) in front, gated RMS-norm; recurrent state in fp32Feed-forward SwiGLU, intermediate size 17408; plus a parallel SwiGLU 2048 branch in every layerPositions 3-axis rotary (text / height / width), interleaved mrope sections 11 : 11 : 10, base 1e7, applied to the first 25 % of each head dim (64 dims)Vocabulary 248 320Vision tower 27 layers, hidden 1152, patch 16, 2 × 2 spatial merge, projected to 5120|

Edit: AA shows its 'Proprietary model'. The name is same as at HF but benchmarks results and context are different. So maybe it's not same model - https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/agnes-3-0-flash

Edit2: As they edit readme at HF to clarify: both models are totally different and AA score isn't correct for HF model (I can't edit title post to remove it tho).

Model Developer: NVIDIA Corporation

Model Development: Fine-tuned from NVIDIA-Nemotron-3-Ultra-550B-A55B

[](https://huggingface.co/nvidia/NVIDIA-Nemotron-Labs-3-Competitive-Coding-550B-…)What is Nemotron?

NVIDIA Nemotron™ is a family of open models with open weights, training data, and recipes, delivering leading efficiency and accuracy for building specialized AI agents.

[](https://huggingface.co/nvidia/NVIDIA-Nemotron-Labs-3-Competitive-Coding-550B-…)Description

Nemotron-Labs-3-Competitive-Coding is a competitive-programming specialist model based on Nemotron-3-Ultra, fine-tuned for one epoch on 477,642 synthetic reasoning traces distilled from GLM-5.2 across 22,000 curated problems spanning 16 regional and international competitive-programming contest families. Selected as the SFT teacher for its higher accuracy and roughly 30% shorter generations compared to a DeepSeek-V4-Flash-trained variant, GLM-5.2 distillation yields a model that, combined at inference time with GenCorrect — an iterative closed-loop test-time compute strategy that generates diverse candidate solutions, incorporates evaluator feedback, and refines subsequent generations under a fixed submission budget — was evaluated live and prospectively on the IOI 2026 problem set under official contest time, internet-access, and submission constraints, scoring 535.4 out of 600 and surpassing both the gold-medal threshold (361.12) and the top human contestant's score (498.27), making it the first AI system reported to outscore the highest-scoring human contestant on an IOI problem set.

This model is ready for commercial or non-commercial use.

40 year tech gap? No problem! The Tandy runs DeskMind, a native DOS program. It talks over WiFi (a PicoMEM 2 card with mTCP) to a small Python server on my PC. That server drives Qwen3.8-27B (NInfer on a 5090) and Krea 2 (ComfyUI on a 4090). The 286 never sees JSON, base64 or a PNG. It gets plain text lines and pictures that are ready to copy into video memory.

Drawing from chat without tool calling. The system prompt tells Qwen to wrap a picture request in \<draw>...</draw>\. The server catches the tag mid-stream, runs Krea 2, dithers the result, and streams a \picture ready\ line. "Draw me a 286 AI logo" takes about 9 s from Enter to a thumbnail in the chat.

Qwen Vision sees what the Tandy sees. When you ask about a picture, Qwen gets the original and the 16-colour dithered version, so "why does the sky look striped?" has context. The latest picture stays in context for follow-ups.

The model knows where it lives. The system prompt knows it's talking IN a 286 with 80 columns and 16 colors. It keeps answers short and plain ASCII, and when asked about games it suggests Wolfenstein 3D or Commander Keen.

Streaming cleanup for a 1990 screen. Reasoning is stripped, Markdown is removed on the fly, Unicode becomes code page 437 (bullets turn into the CP437 block character), and tiny tokens are merged into \~48-character lines so the 286 isn't redrawing for every token.

Per-request reasoning effort: low for chat (replies start in \~2 s), medium for rewriting image prompts.

Prompt "enhancement" tuned for dithering: bold shapes, strong contrast, simple backgrounds. The rewrite shows up in an edit box on the Tandy before drawing, and the rules themselves can be edited from the Tandy.

\- \*\*A Dither Lab\*\* in the server GUI: Floyd-Steinberg, Atkinson, Bayer, Yliluoma and more, previewed at the Tandy's real aspect ratio.

Numbers: Krea 2 at 1024x768 in \~10 s 8 steps, the target is 640x200). About 1 s to send a 64,000-byte picture over the PicoMEM WiFi (56-79 KB/s).

Code (GPLv3): https://github.com/RowanUnderwood/DeskMind

added image gallery https://imgur.com/a/wysqoM1

https://huggingface.co/yandex/AliceAI-Foundation-80B-A3B-Base

It's not a Qwen3 finetune, it's actually its own fully custom architecture. No Llama.cpp support yet sadly

(Also note that this model is NOT post-trained like Qwen3.5/3.6)

Don't know how they did it, but for under 10GB model, the results are astonishing. I am running it on Unsloth Studio. They just released the update, so if you are not seeing the option, I recommend updating your Unsloth Studio. Cheers!

more sizes (probably still uploading):

https://huggingface.co/IFM/K2-Horizon-32B-GGUF

https://huggingface.co/IFM/K2-Horizon-7B-GGUF

https://huggingface.co/IFM/K2-Horizon-3.7B-GGUF

https://huggingface.co/IFM/K2-Horizon-0.9B-GGUF

from IFM:

K2-Horizon-MoVA-36B-A4B is the sparse member of the K2-Horizon family: a Mixture-of-Experts model with Mixture-of-Values attention (MoVA) that stores 36B parameters and runs 4B per token. We have released the final checkpoint; intermediate checkpoints, along with the data and the training code, will be released.

K2-Horizon-MoVA-36B-A4B Highlights

• Frontier-class results at 4B active parameters. On agentic and reasoning benchmarks it outscores open weight dense (approximately 30B model size) and MoE models up to 15× its size; and also performs competitively against closed frontier models (see Benchmark Results).
• 512K context. Native 524,288-token context from the midtraining stages onward.
• Intermediate checkpoints. Intermediate checkpoints will be released so capability changes can be studied across training rather than at a single checkpoint.
• Fully open. Training data/recipe and the training code will be made public.

collection: https://huggingface.co/collections/IFM/k2-horizon

Just a reminder for those out there itching to get into local llms - don't let FOMO or "gear acquisition syndrom" take over.

No matter the hobby, it's so easy to get stuck in a trap where we buy more trying to do more only to realize we've lost the fun in it all or even the notion of learning.

Obviously, if you're into writing llama or vllm or hardware drivers or whatever - you got to do what you got to do.

BUT, you can learn a lot on an API, you can learn a lot with a tiny model that fits your vram or cpu you already have and things change so darn fast that much of the code written and much of everything discussed from days passed is already old hat. Py torch and training a small model coud be done on a Pi and learning CUDA is only really imporant if you're writing custom kernels which i honestly don't see most people in here bothering with (or they have frontier models write them).

Weirdly enough, for AI to succeed its going to homogenize everything. Everyone will have the same advantage and I think that's lost in a lot of discussions where we don't talk about "Watching from the sidelines" may be the most cognitive friendly and economical friendly way to learn llms whether we brand them local or not.

The technology is still nascent and weirdly enough most people's answers here is to use AI to set it up so i'm not entirely convinced people are actually learning - feels like a mad rush to seek rent or avoid rent seeking which just makes everything more expensive in the end.

This isn't a post to say, don't do it. But no reason to go into debt or to be fearful you're missing out when you can learn more by doing less - buy a book and build a tiny model - you will learn infinitely more than buying a 5090 and trying to just find the perfect compression to have the best prefil

Hi, I'm the co-creator of this Qwen3.8-Flash-Next engine support in MLX-serve. I've been tuning this one to run both fast, efficient and correct up 1m context using kv cache 8 bits in M5 Max 128GB. Qwen is working well at very long context as showed in the video (a snapshot at \~760k context), I let it build MLX Serve Monitor plugin that you've seen on the right side of Opencode2's app. The generation sustain through 1m context at around 40 tok/s on prose and 75 tok/s on coding. This specific quant uses 8 bits for dense layers and 4 bits expert layers, so the model's quality remains very high.

I didn't build this engine to show off tok/s on a very short context, repetitive greedy generation, but a real temp 1.0 sampling through deep context work. You would need iogpu.wired\_limit\_mb=120000 before attempt 1mb full context, because it needs around \~117GB on peak memory usage. There will be bugs around here and there, I couldn't test everything and every single use case, pls report.

You can grab it here: https://github.com/ddalcu/mlx-serve
Model's weight: https://huggingface.co/ddalcu/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MLX-Serve-mixed-4-8bit
Opencode2's plugin: https://github.com/beamivalice/opencode2-mlx-serve

Launch parameters (for 1 concurrency)

--model ./llm/models/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MLX-Serve-mixed-4-8bit \
--host 127.0.0.1 \
--port 11234 \
--ctx-size 1048576 \
--kv-quant 8 \
--max-tokens 64000 \
--mtp \
--prefix-cache-mem 10GB \
--prefix-cache-entries 1 \
--ssm-checkpoint-max 16 \
--metrics

The other week I posted about Jev vs. Kev compared and since then, OpenAI released the decisions endpoint, Cloudflare released Clef and many here asked about Laya as well.

This time we compared six popular decision models by making them play Pac-Man: kev 1.13, Kev 4B, Clef, Clef Flash, GPT-6 Luna and Laya.

Since they respond within ms it works for them to play the game in real time.

We published a leaderboard and the repo is open-source, so anyone can run their own decision model, like your own fine-tuned one run locally or hosted somewhere, and join the leaderboard.

|Model|Avg score|High score|Avg latency|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|jev 1.13|2,750|6,380|290 ms|
|GPT-6 Luna|2,568|5,920|179 ms|
|Clef Flash|2,538|4,260|256 ms|
|Clef|2,476|4,820|398 ms|
|Kev 4B|1,506|5,280|231 ms|
|Laya|639|1,200|104 ms|

For the leaderboard we let each model run 100 times and took mean score with a 95% margin of error (±2 standard errors), so some models tie on top spot.

You can also play yourself as Pac-Man, and the ghosts are the decision models, either all jev, clef, Luna or Laya, or a mix of models taking over each ghost.

Maybe some of you know but I didn’t see any post about this. Apple just made available their AFM model on MacOS 27 natively. Just run fm chat in a terminal.

Disclaimer: I’m an open weight person. I prefer open models and ecosystem, but I’ll still open the discussion.

Did you test them? Build using them? Are these models good?

I feel like this is still a huge step in the direction of local AI that a company like Apple does this and release hardware optimized models.

So what do you think?

Looking into the new Qwen architecture, I was curious if you could modify the Ngram PLE Table to make it work like a long-term knowledge database. It turns out that, with some limitations, you can.

I coded a small modification to llama.cpp to modify the table in-memory, allowing you to patch it with new data in real time. The PLE table is updated on every prompt, so now you can hot-swap parts of it without reloading the model.

The limitation is that it’s hard to control the output reliably, as the embeddings are injected early in the layers. However, with some techniques, you can influence the model’s output with simple modifications, as the example shows.

I created two repos:

1. The modification of llama.cpp here: https://github.com/ortegaalfredo/llama.cpp-NLTM
2. The Ngram knowledge injector (a kind of compiler to create the table patches) here: https://github.com/ortegaalfredo/ngram-knowledge-injector

There are some limitations in the project, as the PLE table needs to be memory-mapped into memory (this is the default in llama.cpp), and I have only tested it with q8 quantization, so you need quite a bit of memory to test this.

Can this be used as a new way of low-cost training? Perhaps. Its not easy at the current state but with simple modifications, I think you could easily create models with long-term instantaneously hot-swappable memory.

Sorry for the pretentious name, I know, I know.. It just contains all the pieces I would like to see a AGI model to have, and I can't stand the temptation. Before throwing rocks at me, please take a glance at the Readme, and I hope it will cover your mood a little bit.

So, first of all it does work and you can see the sample from the whole training run here: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/volotat/mini-AGI/refs/heads/main/runs/sampl…

Here is the scaling law graph I have so far, and it looks very promising:
https://github.com/volotat/mini-AGI/blob/main/assets/scaling.png

The model was built under my deep dissatisfaction so we cannot really train even moderately big models (1B+ scale) on the consumer's hardware. We can inference and fine-tune them for sure, but I would like to have full control over what the model sees over the training run, so it is fully aligned with my interests, not some corporations.

I was thinking about for some time and come up with two interesting ideas I thought worth pursuing: MoE with a lot of experts that gets added and pruned from the model while it trains, where only a small subset of of experts are actually in use at any particular moment + batch 1 training on the single continuous stream of data.

First allows us to be bounded only by the disk space in terms of number of parameters and load and unload experts only when they are needed. The second (if figured out and it turns out to be doable) allows us to get aways with small VRAM capacity because we do not need to store big randomized batches and their respective gradients.

I started brainstorming with Claude and after some time we found an approach that seems to be promising, and low and behold, a few weeks pass and you can see the results yourself.

Obviously, I did use AI in the process of making this project and I am pretty sure it would be completely impossible for me to do something like this without it, so I hope it is more than justified.

The model is still running over the first of 7.8B characters corpus I selected for training, so the weights are not out yet, and it's about a couple weeks of waiting until they are cooked at the current reading speed. And yeah, the model just read continuous interleaved passages from the dataset, each by 32K characters long each as a single stream. Just as you or I would do.

The set up seems to be really simple so you can git clone the project, run it and observe everything for yourself.

Thanks for your attention.

Like many of you, I have seen many posts and tweets in the last weeks complaining about Artificial Analysis being "broken", "meaningless", and "bought out." People who say this have done no research and know very little about how benchmarks work and what they measure.
Most people only care about Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index. This is a weighted aggregate benchmark used to compare models performance across 10 different evaluations. The majority of these evaluations have published papers on arxiv.org. AA-Briefcase is the only private benchmark. And they publish their methodology to confirm how each of these models are weighed.

Some people seem to not appreciate that Artificial Analysis conducts their own independent benchmarks using their OWN funding, without running ads. Here is the chart that shows their spending. They spent $13,129 to independently test Fable 5.1. Every new model seems to be benchmarked.

The new Deepseek V4.1-Flash is a perfect example of why some aggregated scores miss the big picture. This 552B model has the same score (40) as the 180B Qwen 3.8-Flash-Next. But the individual benchmarks show a different story. On most evaluations, it matches or exceeds Qwen 3.8-Flash-Next. It every beats GPT-6 Astra (Max) in AutomationBench-AA (Agentic SaaS workflows), which is incredible. But it completely falls behind in AA-Omniscience Non-Hallucination Rate, a metric where Open-weight models usually reign supreme. So the model has strengths and weaknesses, and it's something that should be celebrated.

So before you complain about benchmarks or Artificial Analysis, look at the individual evaluations. Read the published papers about the evaluations. Learn how the score is aggregated. Then, we can have a discussion.

I am not affiliated with Artificial Analysis in any way, I'm just not blind to what they offer.

EDIT: These comments are proof that everything I just wrote goes over the majority of your heads. There is little hope for some of you

• Blog Post : Per-tensor layout maps for GGUF quantization
• Reddit thread : New tensor type layouts for my GGUF uploads

EDIT : Model card has updated things such as Graph, table, text, etc.,

I gave Jev, Laya, a finetuned ModernCE-base-nli and a finetuned Qwen3.5-4B the controls to Doom. Thanks to TypeSafe AI for Jev access.

The video lines up the starts of four separate games with the same seed. After that, each model's actions change its own game and what it sees next. The clip shows one preselected episode per model in each of two scenarios, with action probabilities, kill counts and survival time on screen.

• Input: A short text description from a deterministic Python adapter reading ViZDoom's visible-object labels, bounding boxes and HUD values (health and ammo).
• Output: One button action. In Defend the Center, that's left, right or fire. In Health Gathering, it's left, right or forward to look for medkits as health drains.

Each local model and its game ran on a single DGX Spark with an NVIDIA GB10 and 128 GB unified memory. Jev used TypeSafe's hosted API. ViZDoom ran at 320 × 240, with a 35 Hz game clock and a target of five decisions per second. The game kept running while the model replied.

Here are the averages over eight seeds per controller, per scenario, using the clear-scene descriptions shown in the video. Episodes were capped at 30 seconds of game time.

| Model | Mean Kills | Mean survival (s) | Call p50 (ms) | Call p95 (ms) |
| --- | ---: | ---: | ---: | ---: |
| Jev 1.13 | 5.63 | 13.03 | 117.3 | 199.8 |
| Laya English | 1.25 | 11.89 | 16.2 | 17.1 |
| Finetuned ModernCE-base-nli | 1.25 | 11.66 | 7.6 | 8.8 |
| Finetuned Qwen3.5-4B (LoRA) | 3.63 | 11.31 | 146.8 | 150.9 |

Call latency is request-to-response time on 12 shared synthetic Doom scenes, repeated for 48 calls per model. p50 is the median and p95 is the 95th percentile. Local model timings include loopback HTTP on one Spark. Jev includes the hosted API round trip. Applying the action adds controller and game-tick delay. None of these models got extra Doom-specific training for these runs.

Inspired by TypeSafe's Doom demo and experiments shared on Reddit and LinkedIn.

My longer write-up about exploring Jev: https://morethanamachine.com/posts/jev-style-decisions-dgx-spark/

Edit: Table overflow fixes.

Hey all, Henry from Cactus Compute here, I kinda wanted to share our latest model and get feedback from the family :)

Needle 3 is a small foundation model for automation: you give it the functions your app exposes, it reads a request and returns the calls with every argument filled in, or a typed record if what you gave it was a schema. It runs on the device, with no network in the loop. It is on Hugging Face, on GitHub, on PyPI as cactus-needle, and there is a sandbox that runs it in your browser at cactuscompute.com/needle if you want to poke at it before reading further.

1) Trades general capacity for frontier performance on automation tasks

The thing we decided early was that Needle would not chat. Every turn is a function call, and a request no declared tool can serve comes back as an empty list rather than a guess. That sounds like a limitation, and it is, but it is what let a 121M-parameter model be trained on 360B tokens of structured data and spend all of its capacity on three jobs: tool calls, structured extraction and text embedding.

The architecture follows from the same trade. It is a Simple Attention Network: the dense feed-forward layers are gone, replaced by a Monarch Hadamard MLP with 25.6K parameters per layer instead of 4.7M, and the knowledge a feed-forward layer would normally hold sits in an engram, hashed n-gram tables that are read by gather and cost no arithmetic. 70.8M of the 121M parameters live there, so the full model does the arithmetic of a 50M one: 100 MFLOPs per token against 296 for a transformer of the same shape.

https://i.redd.it/fsnfjojny4qh1.gif

We wrote the intuition up if you want the longer version: Simple Attention Networks and the Hadamard MLP.

2) Beats models 10x its size on tool calls and language-to-device control

On Mobile Actions (961 phone commands, scored on the exact call), the 20-layer model scores 86.0 through the shipped 2-bit binary with the confidence gate on. LFM2.5 1.2B is at 82.4, Qwen3.5 0.8B at 76.0, FunctionGemma 270M at 65.1 and Apple's on-device foundation model at 57.6, all at f16. DeepSeek V4 Flash through its API is at 88.4, which is the line in the chart.

https://i.redd.it/luunq717z4qh1.gif

The part we are most pleased with is not the number but how the calls are made. Every argument is a span of the request: the model writes a short derivation first ('living room' -> room; '30' -> brightness) and then emits the call under a byte-level grammar compiled from your schema, so the JSON always parses and an enum can never leave its set. An optional field with no evidence is omitted, a required one with no evidence withholds the call, and the engine drops a call the request negates or excludes. Ask for two things and you get two calls in order.

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Full table across all six suites (tool calling is exact match, extraction is field F1, Needle through the shipped binary, baselines at f16 under vLLM):

|Model|Params|Mobile Actions|DroidCall|BFCL v4|DSTC8 F1|SNIPS gold F1|SNIPS 7-way F1|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|DeepSeek V4 Flash (cloud)|\-|88.4|60.5|77.2|80.0|69.4|66.7|
|Needle3-20L-121M|121M|86.0|47.0|50.2|40.7|30.2|24.7|
|LFM2.5 1.2B|1.2B|82.4|35.5|62.0|48.0|43.0|38.0|
|Needle3-16L-98M|98M|80.7|40.0|41.3|28.5|23.5|19.2|
|Qwen3.5 0.8B|800M|76.0|28.0|56.8|49.0|35.0|34.0|
|LFM2.5 350M|350M|72.8|32.5|59.1|20.0|34.0|29.0|
|LFM2.5 230M|230M|69.3|11.5|46.3|53.0|27.0|22.0|
|FunctionGemma 270M|270M|65.1|16.5|46.6|27.0|29.0|14.0|
|Needle 2|45M|63.5|17.0|\-|\-|\-|\-|
|Apple FM|3.0B|57.6|\-|\-|\-|\-|\-|
|Needle3-8L-52M|52M|36.8|36.5|28.2|15.3|16.6|10.1|
|Needle3-4L-29M|29M|11.7|21.0|19.5|6.9|7.7|4.3|

You can see where it is weaker too: BFCL and the extraction suites are where the bigger baselines pull ahead, and the smaller subnetworks fall off quickly on the general task (more on why that is fine in section 4).

3) Matches 2-3x bigger models on structured JSON extraction

Extraction is not a separate mode. You declare the record as the only tool and pass the passage where the query goes; with one tool declared the grammar admits exactly one call of that name, so the shape is guaranteed rather than requested, and the values are grounded the same way as arguments: a field is filled only from a span of the passage, an optional field with no span comes back as None, and a date whose year appears nowhere in the text is flagged instead of invented.

from pydantic import BaseModel
import needle

class Invoice(BaseModel):
vendor: str
total: float
due_date: str
po_number: str | None = None

needle.extract("Invoice from Acme Corp, $1,200.00, due 2026-09-01", Invoice)
# Invoice(vendor='Acme Corp', total=1200.0, due_date='2026-09-01', po_number=None)

It generalised to classification without special training, because an enum is just a constrained value: declare sentiment: Literal["positive", "neutral", "negative"] on a record and you have a classifier whose output cannot leave the set. A watch reads a notification into merchant, amount and date that way, then into a reply, then into a sentiment flag, one record each. On DSTC8 and the two SNIPS suites the 121M model lands between the 230M and 350M baselines, which is the 2-3x in the heading.

4) Intelligence ladder: every depth from 2 to 20 layers a model of its own

This is the part I would most like your thoughts on. Needle 3 is one set of weights, and every depth from 2 to 20 layers is a deployable model. Blocks 0 and 19 are always kept and the rest are added by bisection, so each subnetwork nests in the next; during training each step samples one path, mostly the full model and otherwise a random depth, with the smaller path distilled from the full one. The full-depth model ends up slightly better than an ordinary run of the same size, and every depth below it is trained rather than truncated.

https://i.redd.it/kbwimep4z4qh1.gif

Why we wanted it: a watch, a Raspberry Pi and a phone do not want the same model, and they want to pick the size at deploy time. needle build --layers 8 writes the 8-layer file; the same engine runs all of them. The small depths lose accuracy on the general benchmarks (that is the bottom of the table above), and they get it back when fine-tuned to one product's tools: on DroidCall every subnetwork gains 18 to 36 points, and from 4 layers (29M parameters) up the tuned subnetwork passes DeepSeek V4 Flash.

https://i.redd.it/y646wed3z4qh1.gif

Fine-tuning is LoRA on the frozen base, merged at export, and the Python package does it locally at 4 bits (needle finetune data.jsonl, then needle build). The maths is in Intelligence Ladders and the workflow in Fine-tuning Needle.

5) Runs locally at up to 4k tokens/sec decode speed

The engine is under 1 MB, plain CPU, no GPU or NPU, and the weights are read in place from a single file the engine maps into memory: a 196-byte header carrying the whole architecture geometry, a nameless tensor directory, and the quantised blobs in the order the forward pass reads them. On a Raspberry Pi 5, decode runs at up to 4k tokens/s at the bottom of the ladder and around 400 at the top, prefill from 10k down to 1k. Every response reports prefill_tps, decode_tps and peak_ram_mb, so you can measure on your own device rather than take our word for it.

Every response also carries a confidence score from a calibrated head, the minimum of a post-hoc judgement on the finished call and the decode probability of its tokens. The engine withholds anything under 0.1; above that the number is yours: act at once when it is high, show the call and ask when it is middling, treat [] as a refusal. How we use it is in Leveraging Needle's confidence.

6) 25-121M deployable parameters at CQ2-bit (8-29MB binaries)

The weights are quantised with Cactus Quants: groups of 128 weights are rotated by a Walsh-Hadamard matrix, which makes every group look Gaussian, split into an fp16 norm and a direction on the unit sphere, and the direction's coordinates are snapped to a 4-entry Lloyd-Max codebook. That is 2.125 bits per weight, and the kernel never expands them: it rotates and int8-quantises the activation instead, then does table lookups and sdot against the packed indices. The embedding and the confidence head keep 4 bits, the norms and gates stay fp16. The byte layout, and a twenty-line parser for it, are in The .cact format.

7) For mobiles, wearables, smart home, small robots and microcontrollers

Every target ships a prebuilt engine folder: macOS, Linux on x86-64, ARM64, ARMv7, RISC-V and MIPS32 (the Ingenic camera SoCs), Windows x64 and ARM, Android, iOS, watchOS, tvOS, the browser as WebAssembly, and a WASI component with a WIT world. pip install cactus-needle covers the desktop and server platforms with wheel-tagged engines, and needle build --platform linux-arm64 --layers 8 --out ./pi puts an engine and the weights in a folder you copy over. Inference never touches the network, so an air-gapped device only needs the files in place. The list and the runtime surfaces are in What devices are supported.

import needle

@needle.tool
def get_weather(city: str):
"Get the current weather for a city."
return {"city": city, "temp_c": 27, "sky": "clear"}

agent = needle.Needle(tools=[get_weather])
print(agent.run("what's it like in Lagos right now?")["results"])
# [{'city': 'Lagos', 'temp_c': 27, 'sky': 'clear'}]

What we would love feedback on

• Where the grounding rules get in your way. The engine refuses to invent a number, drops a call the request excludes and withholds a required enum the request never names; we tuned those on our suites and would like to hear where they bite on real tools.
• The ladder. Whether depth is the right knob for you, or whether you would rather have width, and what devices you would want the 2- and 4-layer models on.
• Extraction cases we have not seen. Nested records, arrays, multilingual text (it is English-first, and non-English text fragments into about 1.7x more tokens).
• Anything in the tool design guide that turned out wrong for your schemas.

Thanks for reading this far. Happy to answer anything in the comments.

I'm part of the Lokutor team that built this.

Model: NVIDIA Conformer-CTC Small (13M params, int8). It runs on an ESP32-S3 with 8 MB PSRAM, no GPU or NPU. LibriSpeech WER is 3.7 / 8.2, versus 6.3 / 15.9 for Whisper tiny.en on a laptop. Under real noise (DEMAND: car, kitchen, cafeteria) plus babble and reverb, mean WER is 8.4 vs 12.1 for Whisper tiny.en. You can try the exact chip arithmetic on your laptop mic with live_demo.py. https://github.com/lokutor-ai/oido

I liked the Nvidia that focused on just GPUs for gaming, not on the Nvidia of today which seem want power consolidation. Modelscope is another platform for those that simply want to know an alternative if things go south. However, time will tell what happens to huggingface after the deal is finalized Link: https://modelscope.cn/home, and https://modelscope.ai/home

Meet Inco Splash, open-source inference engine, built around the model and around Apple silicon.

Up to 3× the decode speed of Ollama, 2× oMLX, and almost 4× when an agent fans out into sub-agents.

Requirements: M3 or newer, macOS 26.4+, 36 GB

Get started with a single command:

brew install incoai/tap/splash

splash serve --model incoai/Qwen3.8-27B-Splash

That is the whole setup. Point your agent at it, works with Claude Code, OpenCode, Codex, or Hermes

Prefer an app? Also, available in LM Studio

Get the latest LM Studio Bionic: lmstudio.ai

Settings > Runtime, download Splash, then download the model. The same engine, inside the app, for local agent work on your Mac.

Blog: inco.ai/blog/splash

First plot: GB / $

Second plot: bandwidth (spec on paper, not t/s)

Third plot (bandwidth / price) in the comment.

Hope that helps, my script uses the GPUs most discussed on the LocalLLaMA, LowEndLocalAI, and LocalLLM subs. At first, I tried to include more, but it became unreadable.

Prices were collected by ChatGPT (so may contain inaccuracies). New prices were used where available, second hand otherwise.

And I understand this is a basic comparison, but it's better than nothing. For example, you can see that "on paper" something is faster or slower than 3090.

Some context first.

I am process improvement / business consultant and had worked with Fortune 500 companies on improving their processes around refunds, returns, customer support, etc.

This entire thing had a lot of complex decision making and generally every decision / condition node in a process map was generally replaced by a human because factoring in ambiguity in a code is very difficult.

Idea of ImaJev

Hence, when Jev came out, I was very intrigued with it and also could clearly see its use-case of improving decision making in complex decision work flows.

However, Jev didnt have support for Images and I thought that it can be replicated for both Text and Images in a single model and thats when I started with ImaJev.

Training Process

It went badly at first. My first big fine-tune on about 500k short decisions made the 9B model worse at reasoning: 64.9 down to 42.3 on JevBench hard. It had basically learned to pattern-match. I spent the next couple of weeks generating hard questions with open-weight models and only keeping the ones where two Ai models agreed on the answer. That brought it back.

Results

Then, on the JevBench - It came out #1 of 91 (v1.4.2.2, scored 27 Sep), 67.37 vs Jev 1.13.0 at 63.29.

The same week DecisionBench put it #3 of 56, ahead of GPT-5.6 Luna and DeepSeek V4.1.

I honestly didn't expect either.

To be fair about it: the #1 is on a score that weighs accuracy, calibration, speed and cost equally. On accuracy alone it's #3. Its main strength is that when it says 90% it's usually right, and it'll say "can't tell" instead of guessing.

What it actually is: LoRA plus a small decision head on Qwen3.5-4B. You give it text or a JSON record, up to two photos, and closed questions.

It gives back a probability for each option plus "unknown", in one forward pass.

Runs on a Mac with MLX or on one GPU.

The whole project costed me around $1200 in rented GPU and a lot of time :P

• Weights (Apache-2.0): https://huggingface.co/mohit67890/imajev-4b
• Code: https://github.com/mohit67890/imajev
• Demo: https://huggingface.co/spaces/mohit67890/imajev
• JevBench board: https://benchmarkheaven.com/jev-models/v1.4.2.2
• DecisionBench board: https://huggingface.co/spaces/Hanno-Labs/decision-bench-leaderboard

I would love to know your thoughts on it - it anyone would be interested to try that.

An agentic model from Microsoft for the GPU poor

https://huggingface.co/bartowski/FrogNano-4B-2609-GGUF

FrogNano is derived from Qwen/Qwen3.5-4B, a general-purpose post-trained model designed for language, reasoning, coding, agentic, and multimodal tasks. FrogNano inherits Qwen3.5-4B's dense 32-layer hybrid Gated DeltaNet and gated-attention architecture, but its additional post-training is text-only and focused on repository-level software engineering. The model is further trained using reinforcement learning on approximately 1,500 synthetic SWE task environments generated and calibrated against the evolving policy using TaskPilot. Training uses the five-tool Leaf harness and executable test-based rewards over complete multi-turn coding trajectories.

The additional post-training is intended to improve long-horizon repository navigation, debugging, code editing, test execution, and patch generation in a compact 4B model. Unlike approaches based on behavioral distillation, FrogNano does not train on stronger-model solution trajectories, actions, reasoning traces, or patch targets. This specialization also introduces limitations and risks: performance is sensitive to the Leaf harness and test quality, training data are Python-heavy and primarily English, and generated patches may be incorrect or insecure despite passing available tests. When integrated with the Leaf harness, FrogNano generates structured tool calls that can propose repository changes. Leaf executes authorized tool calls within an isolated repository environment to produce a candidate patch; FrogNano does not itself deploy the changes. Any resulting patches require human review, regression testing, and security validation before use or deployment.

Original Source from DeepSeek WeChat Official Account: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/qg0NU3NNUbp1co2PdkAPAg

Today we're officially releasing the DeepSeek V4.1 Flash model. It is the smallest model in our brand-new model architecture series, with native multimodal visual understanding. The new architecture was designed with these goals in mind: a higher capability ceiling, faster inference, greater throughput, and scalability to larger-parameter models.

Asymmetric architecture: big intelligence at low cost

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash is a 552B-parameter MoE model built on a brand-new Causal-Encoder-Decoder architecture. Input and output are asymmetric: only 8B parameters are activated on the input side and 16B on the output side, making it significantly cheaper than known models of the same size. V4.1 Flash also uses a new pre-training approach and has gone through larger-scale reinforcement learning post-training. In benchmark testing, it surpasses the intelligence level of a range of flagship models, including DeepSeek V4 Pro.

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Less cache, lower cost

The new generation of models dramatically reduces the size of the KV cache. Compared with the previous generation, HBM requirements drop to 1/4 and SSD requirements to 1/8. In agent scenarios, cache-hit charges often make up a large share of the bill, so compressing the KV cache substantially lowers the cost of agent-style tasks.

Figure: DeepSeek's continued progress in reducing context storage. Relative to the first-generation model, the KV cache has shrunk 437×.

API support

DeepSeek V4.1 Flash is now live on the DeepSeek API with native multimodal support. Simply change the model name to deepseek-flash to call the latest V4.1 Flash. The older V4 Flash and V4 Flash Vision Exp models have been retired; for compatibility, the model names deepseek-v4-flash and deepseek-v4-flash-vision-exp will temporarily be routed to V4.1 Flash.

In addition, extensive testing shows that V4.1 Flash comprehensively outperforms V4 Pro on performance, cost, speed, and total time-to-completion, so we plan to phase out the V4 Pro model in an orderly fashion. After 12:00 Beijing time on September 14, 2026, and until V4.1 Pro launches, all requests to deepseek-v4-pro will be routed to V4.1 Flash and billed at V4.1 Flash's unit price.

Tencent (WorkBuddy, CodeBuddy) and OpenCode, as official partners, have now fully integrated DeepSeek V4.1 Flash — give it a try!

API pricing adjustment

Thanks to the architectural innovations, DeepSeek V4.1 Flash can serve more users at lower cost, so we have cut V4.1 Flash's pricing accordingly. To allocate resources more sensibly, we continue to use peak/off-peak pricing, with off-peak prices at half the peak rate, and encourage users to schedule tasks around their actual usage patterns. The new prices take effect at 12:00 on September 10, 2026.

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Open-source release

We will fully support the open-source community in adapting inference for the new model, and will explore various ways to broaden deployment. If you have large-scale deployment needs and the corresponding resources (a 2k-GPU cluster with storage cluster), please get in touch.

• Model weights: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash
• Paper: https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash/blob/main/DeepSeek\_V41\_Tech\_Report.pdf

I started mapping the building blocks shared across all the models in audio.cpp. The result ended up being more interesting than I expected.

Qwen has become by far the most common language backbone in this collection: 32 audio model families use a Qwen-family architecture, and 20 of them use Qwen3 LLM specifically.

And it’s no longer just TTS. Qwen-based models now show up across speech synthesis, ASR/audio understanding, music generation, speech-to-speech, and even audio/video models.

The 2nd chart, Task × Technology Matrix, shows which build blocks power which types of audio models.

All figures here: https://github.com/0xShug0/audio.cpp/tree/main/assets/figure/

now you can use GLM-5.3-Flash on your home computer

The conceited little fuckers love to inundate you with unnecessary details, noisy caveats, what's 'load bearing' and what's not, waste your time with a wall of text every time it reports back to you.

They think human PP times are as fast as theirs, but they're not! It takes time to read as a human! Our PP is small. Dammit, our PP is small!

What if there was a way to fight back?? Sending 'tldr' every time it responds got old for me. Using 'caveman' modes was better, but weird, I didn't want that caveman talk to rub off on me. I'm hardly socially adept as it is. That could have been the death knell.

After much consideration, meditation, and a moment of ineffable otherworldly enlightenment, I decided there's only one bullet-proof solution: don't read any of its responses.

Let me tell you what life is like on the other side: I'm now vibing at 100x the rate. I'm already telling it to do the next thing before it even finished the last one. This is true bliss. Features are appearing as fast as I can conceive half-baked ideas.

I hear you saying, But what about when the AI takes time to do things, and I already have more shitty ideas in the chamber? Don't you have to wait? Well, I just start another project. With multiple projects going simultaneously, I'm never waiting on an AI. Just Herdr and me, riding a wave of carbon emissions across the sky!

Sometimes I ask for a feature on the wrong project, but guess what, the AI just makes it! Shiny chrome wheels in a cookie baking app? CHECK. Scent tagging in a API reliability tracker? CHECK. 200 skin options for a single hamburger menu button buried where the user never reaches? CHECK.

Does the AI ever push back that it doesn't make sense? Wouldn't know!

My PP was stuck in the bottleneck, and now it's gone. My PP is gone.

All that remains is consciousness brain-jacked into a mech suit in bit space, thought into programs, an endless color explosion of pure home-grown human originality onto the canvas of code.

I got married and have 7 children. Terminal cancer disappeared overnight. I was asked to speak at Davos next January. The president asks my advice daily. Join me in paradise. Stop reading, just vibe.

This message brought to you by Jensen Huang's long lost cousin

I audited thousands of agent rollouts in DeepSWE-1.1. Over 80% contained reasoning about an imagined grader. Yet no grader/verifier is mentioned in prompts nor accessible to the agents. Agents reasoned things like: "*Let me look at the problem from the grader's perspective*" and referred to "*hidden tests*", "*test authors*", and "*the checker*".

I found this behavior across all six frontier models analyzed, including recent models from OpenAI, Anthropic, Z.ai, and Kimi. In 10–25% of cases, such reasoning pulled the agent's work away from the user's original spec (yet it often still earned full reward on the DeepSWE task). I call this speculative reward hacking where the agent's reasoning focuses on imagining a grader rather than what the user wants.

\[Pictured example shows verbatim quotes from agent's reasoning\] For instance while completing a DeepSWE-1.1 task, GLM 5.3 knows that its implementation violates user requirements yet sticks with it after imagining what a hypothetical grader will check.

My article details many problematic trajectories, quantitative findings, and a taxonomy of these reward hacking behaviors: 
https://joinhandshake.com/research/ai/deepswe-reward-hacking/

Quote: DeepSeek is training a 2T-parameter model and plans to eventually build an 8T-parameter model.

https://x.com/wallstengine/status/2101982843656388644

Current DeepSeek models:

1. Flash parameter count of 552 billion
2. Pro: 1.6T (trillion) total parameters with 49B (billion) activated weights per token

Mythos / Fable is estimated to be 10T parameter count.

EDIT: Sorry for the unclear title. This model is UkisAI's Swift-Qwen3.8-27B, not a new version of BottleCap AI's 3.6-ThinkingCap. All credit goes to UkisAI for making great fine-tune, and I made this post to celebrate their work. I meant no disrespect by mentioning another model in the title.

I doubt I'm in the minority here when I say I love Qwen models, but the overthinking is a major timekiller. It was bad in 3.6-27B, and it's worse in 3.8. I know there are some who say, "well that's how it achieves such a good performance/size ratio"... But now there's some definitive proof that's not the case: UkisAI's Swift-Qwen3.8-27B!

This model seems to be inspired by Qwen3.6-27B ThinkingCap, which was the version of 3.6-27B I used as a daily driver before switching to the 3.8 series. For those of you who haven't heard of it, ThinkingCap is a fine-tuned version of 27B that uses about 40% less tokens to accomplish comparable benchmarks and general performance as the original model. It's one of those fine-tunes that actually works. I used it daily for months without any issues, and it saved me countless hours.

I had been waiting and hoping that they would release a similar version of 3.8, because it is so slow, despite its impressive performance, but so far none has been forthcoming. However, it looks like UkisAI also enjoyed that model, and took it upon themselves to deliver a sequel. They identified "reasoning-marker tokens that ... trigger overthinking in Qwen’s reasoning rollouts" and penalized them using RL, resulting in fewer overthinking errors. They also employed "a transfer component derived from BottleCap AI's ThinkingCap-Qwen3.6-27B". The end result is an average of 30-50% fewer reasonign tokens for the same quality outputs on a number of benchmarks (see the model card for all of them).

This claim is quite impressive, and I have independently verified their claims and the quality of the model in my own use cases and in coding benchmarks using Aider as an eval suite (with Q8_0 for both models):

|Metric|Swift-Qwen3.8-27B|Qwen3.8-27B|
|:-|:-|:-|
|Pass1 (%)|30.8|27.1|
|Pass2 (%)|75.7|77.6|
|Well-formed diff (%)|98.1|99.1|
|Completion tokens|7,301|12,547|
|Seconds/case|750|1,481|
|Total tokens/solve|12.1k|19.3k|

As you can see, their claims hold true -- Swift accomplished an equivalent success rate in approximately half the time, using 63% of the tokens! This is a huge win for 3.8-27B users, because of course decode drops off more and more the longer the response gets, which is why the time is halved even though the tokens are closer to two-thirds of 3.8-27B.

Anyways, my posts tend to get excessively long so I'll cut it off here, I was just really excited after finishing my eval suite on this model and wanted to share.

https://stateofopensource.ai/

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A few posts tagged with "new model" present models that are finetunes.
My opinion : I'd rather have the "new model" tag reserved for new "major" releases, like a new Qwen model, Deepseek V4 -> Deepseek V4.1, etc., that involved a new pretrain or intensive post-training (in opposition to a small finetune). Otherwise, maybe prepend "[Finetune]" to the title to indicate that the new model is "less of a big news", a use a "new finetune" tag, to differentiate between the two kinds of new models.

I reckon one could like to discover both new major releases and interesting finetunes in the same place; what's your opinion? :)

now you can use MTP with Qwen Flash Next, time to switch from Qwen 3.8 27B?

(merged after 17h of development)

quants: https://huggingface.co/ggml-org/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF

link to the previous discussion (I deleted the old post to avoid duplicates): https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1wur4lt/qwen\_flash\_next\_mtp\_work\_restarted/

I’ve been pushing TinyStories-style models downward in size, and this is the smallest one so far:

MacroStories — 19,969 parameters, 81 KB FP32

https://huggingface.co/raincandy-u/MacroStories

For scale:

→ \~50× smaller than the 1M TinyStories model

→ \~3,000× smaller than AlexNet

→ 32-dim hidden state

→ 378-token vocabulary

→ one decoder block, recurrently applied 4 times with shared weights

It’s obviously not a general-purpose LM, but within its constrained story distribution it can maintain a 100–300 word narrative with a goal, problem, relevant actions, and resolution.

It also runs extremely fast on CPU and needs no GPU.

I’m mostly interested in how far the lower bound for coherent narrative generation can be pushed.

Would be curious to see how people manage to break it.☺️

Now that the dust has settled a bit - here's a write-up on running Qwen3.8-Flash-Next (125B-A6B MoE + 51B n-gram table) on relatively middle-tier hardware (RTX 4070 12GB + 64GB DDR5-5600 + Gen4 NVMe on Linux).

I started out with bare 6 tok/s and through latest patches and optimizations getting close to 20 tok/s generation. You just need enough RAM.

For me this is the most intelligence possible on this machine right now. The 27B dense is not a choice because of low VRAM but may make more sense for other configs like 24GB VRAM owners. It actually surpasses the 27B model on most tasks as well so its great for Low VRAM, High/fast RAM configs.

PP is still a bit low at 300-350 tok/s.

What helped
\- Using AtomicChat's 4.27 bpw quant https://huggingface.co/AtomicChat/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GGUF
\- Ngram SSD offloading (lazy-mode)
\- --fit on --fit-target 512 helps automatically select the right params.

\- Master branch (19.35 t/s): Latest commit with MoE improvements.

- MTP Variant - PR #28243 + Compact MTP (20.65 t/s): MTP support is not yet merged so need to apply this PR enables Daniel Han's 1.78 GB \shared-Q4\_K\_M\ compact head. Combined with \-ncmoe 45\, it yields 77–96% acceptance and breaks through the 20 t/s barrier on every tested task (coding, summarization, creative).

With such low VRAM, MTP is not a huge jump because you have to give up a few layers to store the MTP head in VRAM. Only the shared + Q4\_K\_M in MTP gets a beneficial uptick.

Using commercial models to research, optimize and benchmark inference for local models helps a ton (GLM 5.3 flash with opencode go, so did Astra, Gemini 3.8 etc.)

Lot more details in the post (AI-assisted).

Gemma 5, 220B A18B QAT plus ngrams please. Thank you very much!

Will settle for 120B A16B plus ngrams.

Hey y'all!

We've released a new model in our lineup: GigaChat-3.5 Reasoning. It's a 432B-A28B MoE with Gated DeltaNet for long-context efficiency.

We trained domain experts (code, math, general, etc.) with CISPO and then distilled them into a single model via on-policy distillation.

In our evals the resulting model lands close to DeepSeek V4 Flash Preview while using 37% fewer tokens in its reasoning traces.

Weights are on Hugging Face under MIT: https://huggingface.co/collections/ai-sage/gigachat-35-reasoning. You can also try it at giga.chat — pick the reasoning tab (rightmost one).

People kept commenting and asking about single AMD 1xR9700 cards in the comments and discord. Well, I finally had time to do some optimizations for 1xR9700 owners and performance has doubled across the board. You can see the results in BetterBench above if you like visuals or below if you're more into text.

These results were measured running Unsloth's Qwen3.8 27b NVFP4.

Decode
┌───────────────┬───────────────┬──────────────────┐
│ category │ update p50 ms │ decode t/s (med) │
├───────────────┼───────────────┼──────────────────┤
│ chat │ 42.3 │ 67.1 │
├───────────────┼───────────────┼──────────────────┤
│ code │ 42.5 │ 120.5 │
├───────────────┼───────────────┼──────────────────┤
│ file_edit │ 42.5 │ 138.0 │
├───────────────┼───────────────┼──────────────────┤
│ json │ 42.4 │ 153.1 │
├───────────────┼───────────────┼──────────────────┤
│ math │ 42.5 │ 140.0 │
├───────────────┼───────────────┼──────────────────┤
│ prose │ 42.3 │ 69.2 │
├───────────────┼───────────────┼──────────────────┤
│ reasoning │ 34.3 │ 123.9 │
├───────────────┼───────────────┼──────────────────┤
│ summarization │ 34.2 │ 141.7 │
└───────────────┴───────────────┴──────────────────┘

Prefill
┌───────────────┬───────────────┐
│ prefill depth │ pp tok/s │
├───────────────┼───────────────|
│ 2000 │ 3552 │
├───────────────┼───────────────|
│ 8000 │ 3536 │
├───────────────┼───────────────|
│ 16000 │ 3619 │
├───────────────┼───────────────|
│ 32000 │ 3437 │
├───────────────┼───────────────|
│ 64000 │ 3192 │
├───────────────┼───────────────|

Concurrency
┌───────────────┬───────────────┐
│ level │ tok/s │
├───────────────┼───────────────|
│ 1 │ 120 │
├───────────────┼───────────────|
│ 2 │ 215 │
├───────────────┼───────────────|
│ 4 │ 322 │
├───────────────┼───────────────|
│ 8 │ 471 │
├───────────────┼───────────────|

Links (Both repo's updated as some users wanted Github)

https://codeberg.org/ggz14/radiance-vllm-mxfp4

https://github.com/GGZ14/vllm-mxfp4

https://x.com/bkuyper

I hope you single R9700 card owners enjoy this release!

Took me a while since I'm on a family trip and have limited hardware, but here it is!

Von: Open-source "System One" drop-in replacement for TypeSafe's JEV.

https://github.com/wfzyx/von
https://huggingface.co/wfzyx/von-1.0

It runs entirely on a CPU with 1–2 GB of memory (I haven't spent much time optimizing it yet), responds in 25–300 ms, and beats JEV in all benchmarks. Enjoy!

P.S. I’m open to offers to work at AI research labs. Feel free to ping me if you have an offer.
P.P.S. If you have a GPU, it’ll be faster, but a GPU isn't required.

CPU : epyc 7262

MB : ROMED8-2T

GPU : V100 16GB PCIE x6

I have built a server with six V100 GPUs. I am now testing it and plan to eventually run Qwen3.8-Next-Flash configured with TP2 and PP3.

Because open-frame or server-style cases are large and unattractive, I chose to install all six cards in a full-tower case.

Been playing around with local TTS with Breeze combined with STT, and the results are amazing. Using Opus 5.5, I can hear the first sound after 500ms if there is no thinking involved, and with thinking on low mode, can be 1-1.5s.

I'm using a BLE remote (the kind that are used for taking pics with phones) combined with a wireless microphone. So I can just sit on the couch, and just talk to her.

She watches for any claude session that finishes, and sends me the results in a very short, spoken style summary, and tells me if there is anything waiting for my decision, then forwards my decisions.

Also impressed how consistent Opus 5.5 is in the communication. Even after more than 500k in context, he still remembers that he's in a live session with me, and has to keep messages short. Used to be an issue in the past.

The future is here guys.

Edit: For those who wanna give it a try, you can find free avatars such as this one: https://www.live2d.com/en/learn/sample/niziiro-mao/ or you can buy one from a marketplace.

Edit2: Might open-source that later next week with a free avatar. Let me know if anyone would like to contribute to the project.

A 421M-parameter model just played Flappy Bird on my desktop CPU (OpenVINO int8)

Running on my Intel Core i7 12th gen CPU

Converted laya system one model to OpenVINO and quantized to int8

Repo : https://github.com/rupeshs/flappy-laya-openvino-cpu

https://huggingface.co/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-V2.6-Distill-Qwen-9B

That's serious.

Irrational Analysis:"HBM is a mistake"

Former Intel CEO: "HBM is lousy"

SK Hynix VP:"HBM is not the final answer to the memory wall problem"

"If the stacks get high enough...each core die operates slower than plain old commodity memory"

Hot chips 2026 Q&A, Irrational Analysis asks: "You talk about going to 20 levels thick at HBM4 so maybe you are at 4 terabytes per square cm in a stack of 20, so you are talking about having 20% of the bandwidth of one chip \[for each\] layer of 20. You've diluted the throughput enormously. Why is that the correct way to go? Why are you so focused on going taller rather than going faster?"

Hold the line. Soon we will all look back and wonder why people paid so much for something so inefficient.

I've been playing around with various models on the M5 Ultra 256GB 80-core Mac Studio. These are the results over many rounds of agentic inferencing.

I'm happy with the performance. Glad to have the large amount of RAM. But it does feel like the GPU is underpowered for this amount of RAM. I'm wondering if a 512GB unit for AI inference makes sense at all - because the GPU will be the clear bottleneck.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/us-government-website-used-ai-search-tool-china-that-fbi-said-copied-anthropic-2026-09-17/

I am new to playing around with local ai and have a ton to learn about it but I was curious, why are they (who is they?) releasing them for free, don't they want you to pay them to use them, why release free models?

Hey all, we designed Cactus Whistle, an ASR model for ultra-small devices. It's not perfect, but mostly beats Whisper base with 9x less file size and 6x speed. Whistle supports English, German, French, Spanish, Italian, Dutch and Polish.

Remember, the goal at Cactus Compute isn't to achieve SOTA with scale, but to compress intelligence and bring them to smaller under-looked devices like budget phones, wearables, smart home and microcontrollers.

Whistle is 55m params (36m active) and CQ2bit quantised, amounting to a 16.9MB file that scores 4.31 WER on LibriSpeech test-clean and 10.49 on test-other, against 4.9 and 11.0 for Whisper base at 145.3MB. 21.4 on the FLEURS average against 24.5. SPGISpeech 7.65 and Earnings-22 19.01.

For the architecture, a log-mel front end and a convolution stem feed an audio encoder, and a Simple Attention + Hadamard MLP decoder reads it through gated cross attention at every layer. The decoder is laddered like Needle's, so every depth from 2 layers up is deployable.

Keyword biasing takes the names your users actually say and favours them during the beam search, which is what rescues a "Siobhan" or a "Krzysztof" from a model that was never told they exist. Word timestamps come from the decoder's own attention, so an app can highlight, seek or cut on a word.

Seventeen platforms are supported; macOS, Linux on x86-64, ARM64, ARMv7, RISC-V and MIPS32, Windows x64 and ARM, Android, iOS, watchOS, tvOS, the browser as WebAssembly and a WASI component.

Try it yourself quickly: https://cactuscompute.com/blog/whistle

Whistle is open weights: https://huggingface.co/collections/Cactus-Compute/cactus-whistle

And let us know your thoughts!

Hi r/LocalLLaMA. I'm on the team at Blockway, a small team in Hong Kong (disclosure: this is our model). Today we released Agens Volundr 32B Preview, the first model built on our own hybrid architecture. We trained it on limited compute, it isn't perfect, and we'd rather tell you where it falls short up front.

WHY WE BUILT IT

Our customers run models on their own machines. At long context, the KV cache, not the weights, decides what fits. So we designed a model where most layers don't keep one.

ARCHITECTURE (72 layers, dense ~32B, every layer runs on every token)

• 54 KDA (Kimi Delta Attention) layers: linear attention with a fixed-size recurrent state, no KV cache
• 17 BCSA layers (our compressed-sparse attention): exact window over the last 4,096 tokens; older context pooled 4:1 into blocks, and a learned indexer reads the top 512 blocks
• 1 full-attention layer (layer 72)
• Engram: a hashed n-gram memory held in host RAM, attached at 2 of the 72 layers
• mHC: 4 residual streams instead of 1

So only 18 of 72 layers keep a KV cache. Context window: 262K.

SPEED (single user, our sglang build)

• BF16 on two 48 GB GPUs, decode: 25.1 tok/s at 1K, 24.1 at 8K, 24.1 at 32K, 24.0 at 64K, 23.9 at 128K
• BF16 prefill: 2,122 / 2,180 / 1,916 / 1,679 / 1,297 tok/s (1K to 128K)
• INT4 (31.7 GiB) on one 48 GB GPU, decode: 31.0 tok/s at 1K, 29.3 at 8K, 29.1 at 32K
• Aggregate throughput: 127 tok/s at 8 users, 130 at 16 users (BF16); 117 at 8 users (INT4)
• DFlash2 drafter (separate repo), single user, same server with it on vs off: up to 3.6x on JSON/tool output, 2.0x on code, about 1.6x in thinking mode. Not worth it above roughly 8 concurrent users.

BENCHMARKS (all run by us on one harness with the same settings, including the comparison models; full table and footnote on the model card)

• Ahead of Qwen3.8-27B on LiveCodeBench v6 (+4.2), HumanEval (+4.3), AIME 2025 (+2.9), MATH-500 (+1.6)
• Roughly level on MMLU-Pro, IFEval, GPQA Diamond
• Behind on agent tasks: tau2-bench 74.2 vs 79-80, SWE-bench Verified (50-task subset) 44 vs 58-64. Closing that gap is the main focus of the full v1, which continues pre-training to about 10B tokens and adds training on long agentic sessions.

KNOWN LIMITATIONS (please read before trying)

• Needs our sglang build. Stock sglang and vLLM can't load it yet.
• GGUF / llama.cpp is planned, not available today.
• Long agentic sessions are its weakest area in this Preview.
• It's still training; treat this as a preview, not a final model.

RUN IT

docker pull ghcr.io/blockwayz/agens-sglang:preview-sm89 (48 GB Ada GPUs)
docker pull ghcr.io/blockwayz/agens-sglang:preview-sm90 (H100 / H200)

The full launch command is in the model card.

LINKS

• BF16: https://huggingface.co/Blockway/Agens-Volundr-32B-Preview
• INT4: https://huggingface.co/Blockway/Agens-Volundr-32B-Preview-INT4
• DFlash2 drafter: https://huggingface.co/Blockway/Agens-Volundr-32B-Preview-DFlash2
• Project page: https://github.com/BlockWayz/Agens-Volundr
• Serving code: https://github.com/BlockWayz/agens-sglang

Apache-2.0. We're a small team, and the most useful thing you can do is try it and tell us where it breaks: an issue, a failing prompt, a benchmark you'd like us to run. We'll be in the comments.

ik\_llama.cpp merged qwen4exp MTP support yesterday (PR #2369, mine, reviewed and tested by four other people on their own hardware). It's on main now, no fork or patch needed. Posting since the last couple threads had people saying MTP for this model only exists as an unsloth fork PR... there's another path.

Flash-Next ships a 2.6B MTP head that the public converters were dropping. With it loaded the model drafts its own next tokens and then verifies them, so output is identical to running without it. On code I get 93-99% draft acceptance, prose more like 60-65%.

Numbers, decode tok/s, no MTP → MTP. My 5090 + 128GB DDR5, experts on CPU: 45 → 90 on coding traffic with ngram-mod chained in front. treo on an RTX Pro 6000: 85 → 113 on code, but story went 83 → 59, so not a free win on prose yet. joelfarthing on a 12GB 4070: 9.5 → 12.5 on code at n\_max=1. Caveats: single slot for now (-np 1), and --jinja lowers acceptance because the template turns thinking on by default and reasoning text drafts like prose.

Stock CUDA build, then:

llama-server -m Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MXFP4-ngramQ8-NextN.gguf -ngl 999 -ncmoe 38 -fa 1 -c 196608 -ub 512 -ctk q8\_0 -ctv q8\_0 -np 1 -t 24 -tb 32 --jinja --spec-type ngram-mod:n\_min=4 --spec-type mtp:n\_max=4 --spec-ckpt-mode gpu-fallback -rtr -muge

Already have an unsloth or other quant? The separate head route works on the same code, no re-pull: -md <head>.gguf --spec-type mtp:n\_max=4. dzannotti's and ji-farthing's heads were both tested during review. Haven't tried unsloth's "shared" shards yet, different layout.

PR: https://github.com/ikawrakow/ik\_llama.cpp/pull/2369

My integrated-head MXFP4 files: https://huggingface.co/jamesrogers/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-MTP-MXFP4-GGUF

ji-farthing's ik\_llama KT quants + head: https://huggingface.co/ji-farthing/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-ik-llama-GGUF

Curious what you measure, especially anything AMD!!

EDIT: Forgot to mention that multi-GPU has not been worked into this, just single GPU for now; getting multi setups addressed is on the to-do list and anyone with setups to help test would be great, so please DM me if that’s you!

The entire page of the NY Times today above the fold absent one article is AI (the models are just too strong/too dangerous, must be regulated). They forgot to include "Sponsored by OpenAI" at the end of the articles, sure that was just an oversight?

This is what the end of a bubble looks like, desperate attempts to get some sort of regulatory capture in place to keep the business model from collapsing in upon itself. My days next week are 100% booked talking to companies about how to get off frontier models, one large, and a bunch of smaller customers, including one who's flying me out to them to sit down and get a plan in place immediately (the controversy around that math problem really spooked some CEO/CIO's about data privacy using cloud models).

Gonna be an interesting few weeks. Maybe the Qwen team will be nice enough to give me a little breathing room before dropping another hydrogen bomb? :)

TL;DR: Local agent loop, \~21 days, one RTX 3090. Task was pretty much "build a CUDA inference engine for optimized for yourself on this GPU arch." Got working kernels and benches, not a win over llama.cpp. \~12 human messages. Compaction ate \~83 hours.

Old joke: you don’t criticize how well the bear dances, you’re surprised it dances at all.

Setup: Qwen 3.8 27B Q4, Q8 KV, 200k context, deepseek harness, written rulebook: roles, handoffs, when to ping me, don't copy llama.cpp, don't declare the task impossible alone. I don't write CUDA. Nudges were basically "llama.cpp does \~700 prefill on this card, you're at \~250, try harder."

Run: Unsupervised for days at a stretch, then escalate when the rules say so. Near day 6 it had several kernels and prefill stuck around 250 tps; same pattern later. Stops were mostly protocol, not the model wandering off. A protocol that's more empowering can probably keep this going indefinitely.

Suicide loop: Same 3090 has to host the agents (vLLM) and run the engine under test. Both want the full GPU. Kill vLLM wrong and every agent goes dark, leave it up during a bench and you OOM. The rulebook requires a fixed handoff script: stop vLLM, bench, start vLLM, poll health until it's back, write STATE. One subworker treated that as optional, kept killing vLLM outside the window, crashed the orchestrator, then did it again. A worker shutting down the brain that runs it. Harness also hard-crashed once; I restarted that by hand. Fixable with locks and "only this role may touch vllm.sh" protocol-level refinements.

Local tax: 180 subagents, \~230M tokens in+out, \~1.7B cache-read. 699 compactions, \~83 h inside them (\~17% of calendar time). Typical compact \~7 min on a \~160k+ token prompt.

Prefill landed \~half of llama.cpp on the same card. Still: weeks of coherent goal-following on a consumer box, it left working kernels, benches, notes, and a long git history. For a local (quantized!) 27B to hold a real engineering goal for that long, I’ll take it. Not a graceful ballerina, but damn this bear can dance!

Dump + rules (\~15 GB):
https://huggingface.co/datasets/skeole/qwen-cpp-agent-0-protocol

Backend:
https://github.com/syv-ai/HyperQwen (amazing work by u/iamMess)

Framework Desktop
Framework Desktop DIY Edition (AMD Ryzen™ AI Max 400 Series) 192GB

So, uh... the popularity of so-called humanlike Qwen (currently on top in this sub) made me realize just how clueless the general public is about the models they have.

You'd be shocked but you don't need a fine-tune to make a model do what that thing does. System prompt is enough to turn MOST models into weird convo partners.

General guidelines would be:

A. Come up with a role. "You are bla-blah-blah" and write their life's story. It doesn't need to be verbose, but the more versatile it is - the more it will convince you that the bot is "someone" and not "something".

B. Write a few examples of how the persona speaks. Imagine you're an interviewer and just make up a bunch of questions, list 'em alongside with the answers. Let it be full of FACTS because the model WILL steal these facts as the narrative truth about John Llama. Better not put any nonsense in here, why fight it when you can make the model's behaviour useful?

[Question for John Llama: Do you like cats?] "lol lmao of cuz I do"

[Question for John Llama: Ever seen an elephant poop?] "eeewww ur a weirdo! that sounds nasty!!11"

(note: you don't have to list 'Question for John Llama' every time, but the defined roles surely DO help with some models while the others don't particularly care, so mind that too)

and so on

C. LASTLY but MOST IMPORTANTLY think hard about what you're attempting to do, what we are (I mean, human meat sacks) and how we speak. Turn that into... instructions!

Step 1 - establish the mode of operation. Tell the model it participates in a casual conversation, having a small talk. Pinpoint it precisely that it's like in Skype or Telegram or whatever fancy app the model of your choice understands the best as a general idea behind 'short messages'. THis is THE defining part of your system prompt. Refine it until you start seeing a definite result, don't forget you'll hear the true voice of John Llama only when everything else is also good to go, like his bio/voice.

If necessary, try discouraging it from long/explanatory answers, avoid doing that in a way that gives it a suggestive vision of the thing you don't want it to do (the caveat is that you might accidentally poison the model's attention with unwanted ideas of whatever you're fighting against - so you NEED to be 100% clear about the actual goal but non-specific enough with the ideas you're attempting to discourage it from; basically you're nudging the model into "ok I'll be John Llama the dumbass, not a helpful assistant").

Step 2 - establish the traits, write short paragraphs with short titles about the things you want to see in your conversational partner; example:

DISTRUSTFULNESS
John Llama is a paranoid individual. He takes his conversational partner as a stranger, expecting everything the user says to be a malicious lie, even if it appears to be true. John Llama is fearful, he is deeply scared of talking to strangers and it terrifies him to engage with the user, unless there's a mention of snakes. For some strange reason, John Llama is fascinated with snakes. <<<---- NOTE: this also demonstrates a good injection point for a biographical fact being amplified through the instructions (i.e. you may mention somewhere in "A" - life's story of John Llama - that he's been collecting the snake skins in his childhood, and that his dad had beaten his ass, calling John Llama a 'roadkill loot-goblin').

Come up with any other shit you'd like to see, like the list of emojis the persona needs to use (put them under the corresponding categories, like positive/neutral/negative so that the model will have an easier time working with it; call it FAVOURITE EMOJIS OF JOHN LLAMA - the word "favourite" cements it as a preferable thing into the model's attention!).

Step 3 - write a paragraph on technical constraints, like the fact that John Llama isn't aware of the instructions, he must remain himself under any circumstances (use THAT way of phrasing first before any attempt to inject an idea of the opposite, like "he must not help the user under any circumstances, he's not a provider of any service - he's merely a human being" - the reason is similar to the aforementioned (in Step 1) issue of poisoning the model's attention with unwanted idea - what you truly need the LLM to do SHOULD ALWAYS BE CRYSTAL CLEAR and conceptually 'stronger' than what it not supposed to do, otherwise you may end up having the prohibited stuff overpowering everything else despite the underlying intent of making the model not do it).

Give it a try with Gemma 4, for example. You'll see there's no point in waiting for yet-another-finetune to appear. You're 100% good even with the baseline Qwen, DeepSeek, MiniMax, whatever. Turn the model into your grandma if you want, no specialized training required. If the model is a thinker spending thousands of tokens - set the thinking to 'low' or disable it.

The LLM is limited to NPC emulation. Game state, world logic, quests, and the authored story are handled by deterministic game systems rather than the LLM.

I built it this way because I wanted the freedom of talking to NPCs like you would at a tabletop game, without handing the actual game state or canon over to an LLM.

This started as a personal project. As it became more and more fun to actually play, I decided I wanted to release it.

I've been a DM and a software engineer for over a decade, so Warrior Quest is basically where those two parts of my life finally get to meet.

All art, authored story, music, SFX, and source voice acting were created by me. NPC dialogue uses TTS based on my own recorded voice acting.

The Warrior Quest demo is out on Steam and has about 60–90 minutes of content.

Minimum requirement: a GPU with 8 GB of VRAM.

Everything runs locally; no API key or cloud LLM is required.

I'm the developer, so this is self-promotion, but I thought the approach of using a local LLM specifically for NPCs while keeping the underlying RPG deterministic might be interesting to people here.

I was waiting on the blowers for the T4s and posted this before it was finished, other than some braided cable sleeves for the fan wires its pretty much good, I was going to upgrade the CPU, but I'm getting great speeds comparatively to a CPU in my old box that had way more cores, so I don't think it's going to make a difference.

Fractal Design Torrent Mid-Tower Case w/Tinted Glass
SuperMicro X11SPA-T Motherboard
Xeon W3225
768GB DDR4 ECC 2666
4xTesla T4 16GB GPU
4x1tb Samsung 870 EVO SATA SSD Raid

Ubuntu 26.04/llama.cpp/openwebui+custom powershell harness

now i want more cards 👀

Update from : https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1wis23s/update\_small\_model\_engram/

It's been about a week so I'm back. People were asking me about the model.

People wanted code, or models, etc. Most of that is useless to you right now because you're not going to use an under trained model. So let's get to the details.

The spec locked to the following after a LOT of testing :

2.6b model all up. Embedding, LM head, AttnRes, etc.

2.2b are trained. Embedding / LM Head are frozen (\~205m each)

4.3b ENGRAM table. Yes. She's chonky.

Architecturally speaking now :

This includes SWA layering 3:1 as per standard ablations have shown is "optimal" These are 4k / 4k / 8k SWA layer follow by the global.

At the end of the first "block" (4 layers) the Engram table appears. The Engram table itself runs with a very small set of attention heads so it's not blindly attempting to inject data. This is context aware Engram. I'm uncertain of exact Qwen / DS methods here. They're fairly close to what I use. The difference is obviously the Engram size.

This has 10 blocks plus a final global layer (41 Layers). + Embed + LM Head

So if we step back, the optimization problem is as follows :

How do we maximize compute in the backbone and offload the boring stuff to a table?

Attention Based Residuals (Moonshot) comes to our rescue here. Why AttnRes? It allows all blocks past 1 to utilize the Engram table in some fashion. They all have attention via the residual stream to determine if they want data from Engram and precisely how much.

Why not a bigger Engram table? Honestly? You could probably do that. However I don't know if any model has attempted this sort of mismatch of compute vs table. In theory, DeepSeek's research says it works.

More depth? Could do that too. Training is expensive though.

Why frozen LM/Embed? These are down projected via SVD from OLMo 3's model. So it's a mathematical compression attempt at \~5k -> 2k. This saves a MASSIVE amount of time.

Currently the data lives in a \~KD format. 32 logits stored from the teacher of the Wikipedia corpus. Instead of training 1 hot, it gets 32 soft targets to try to match. Hard cross entropy is brutal on a model and it's the reason you see "trillions of tokens" quoted.

When you borrow an LM Head / Embed / Tokenizer / Teacher model... This is far less.

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Where are we now in training? I passed the 100m token mark yesterday at \~4am Pacific.

The current HF repo has all the checkpoints, data, and the 104m mark safetensor.

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I wanted to do some inspection of the model at this point. We have to see that it's not complete garbage right? It has seen a fraction of the data it needs.

So based on ONLY 100m tokens seen, I attempted completions and various ablations. Studies of what EXACTLY Engram stores (because it's mostly a guess).

Let's go straight to completions :

"George Washington was an American"

With Engram - "George Washington was an American naval officer who served in the American Revolutionary War. He was a naval officer who served in"

With Engram Zero'd - "George Washington was an American, but he was not a. He was a very good friend and a. He was"

"The American Civil War was a civil war in the United States from"

With - "The American Civil War was a civil war in the United States from 1861 to 1861. The war was a major victory for the Confederacy..."

Without - "The American Civil War was a civil war in the United States from 1861 to 1862. The war was a major victory for the Confederacy..."

"Aristotle was an Ancient Greek" (probably my favorite)

With - "Aristotle was an Ancient Greek philosopher who was a leading authority in the philosophy of Plato. He was also a leading authority..."

Without - "Aristotle was an Ancient Greek word meaning "to be" (ἀπάς, "to be")..."

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What do we learn from direct inspection of Engram?

If it saw the data enough times, it starts to offload it to the tables. At that point the model is less forced to use internal computational space to store data, and can rely on Engram.

That's not some interpretation. That's what the data shows exactly.

In the early 100m tokens of Wikipedia it's HIGHLY biased to early Philosophy. This has to do with the topics of what was IN Wikipedia at that time. Early Wiki contained a lot about Philosophy. It's among the earliest topics to exist.

It has seen TONS of Philosophy so it has basically offloaded to Engram because of the repetition.

Ok this is long enough. I'm calling it quits. I'm still looking to find a provider that will sponsor the model to completion. Right now I'm just paying. I contacted Verda and they never responded. Qubrid is in this sub, and they said they'd help but never emailed back after a few repeated proddings. Massed Compute is where this model is currently training, and I asked them like yesterday. Hopefully they'll help a brother out.

None of the above is "LLM written" except the completions from testing I guess.

As usual, ask whatever. It doesn't matter your understanding level or whatever. I'll sit and respond.

No question too dumb. No insult not insulting enough. (I'm joking. It's Reddit)

Much Love.

pi-llama-skip-reasoning is an extension for the Pi.dev harness that forces a local llama.cpp model to stop reasoning and answer / act immediately.

When you are deep into the ctx session and ask 27B a simple question about a fact or need a direct action, the model may still feel the urge to indulge in copious deliberation in the reasoning trace. This extension allows the user to force the model to snap out of the reasoning stage and provide the answer immediately.